Using Tremors as assaults

It was said that this topic needed a separate thread.

Firewalker is a saturation arty too though.

My neon: Instead of constantly and randomly shooting a wide circular area with weak pointless shells, Tremor would unleash a creeping barrage in a line pattern with a salvo of powerful, large-aoe shells with significant smoothing.

Multiple tremors could then either focus one target to maximize point damage, or line-attack, effectively saturate the entire area, guaranteeing some amount of damage to every point.

This would make it at least able to hit targets directly, and would also make it quite fearsome to be hit by such a shell. Currently even a direct impact from a Tremor shell doesn't seem to kill even a flimsy Defender. This would also make it much more practical to smooth out tank paths before an assault. It would generally massively increase the wow factor.

The barrage would start somewhere from half tremor range and creep to full range. Ideally the barrage should end behind the target, but that would mean people would try to extend range by attacking at max range and have the barrage's extension clip targets. Ideally, the exact target point should be impacted only once; each spot on the barrage line should be impacted once.

Tremor should be immobilized while performing the salvo to avoid abuse and to make implementation simpler. Immobilization would make it more snipeable, amplifying its quantness, especially if the barrage takes a while to creep.

Upon completing a predetermined number of shots constituting the barrage, it would start the barrage anew. Reload time should be tuned to barrage duration, enabling continuously cycling barrages if Tremor is left to fire indefinitely.

A fearsome siege unit bringing slow but definite doom to anything too slow to escape the creeping barrage. Now you know why you fear artillery.

Siege tanks are possible to control. Perhaps "immobilize while shooting" is just a deploy mode, or movement makes it interrupt whatever it is doing without resetting reload (so you can't stop barrage right after impacting target and simply start a fresh one without delay).

I can't see how this would make Tremor intrinsically overpowered. Especially given that Catapult and Firewalker exist.

This is not a strategy suggestion. This is a unit mechanic suggestion that guarantees all of the following: the specific target of the unit's weapon being hit at least once; the target area being saturated; no point in saturation area being hit twice; reliable shape of smoothing for tank passability.

Killing tanks by stabbing them with swords was historically proven ineffective.

Lets talk about Panthers.

quote: EMP, first artillery to do so. Stun 1.5 sec,600EMP damage

You must be new here... oh wait, you are! To elaborate: before disarm was a thing, both Thunderbird and Racketeer were using EMP instead. Thunderbirds were actually considered pretty op at that time.

I don't really see any niche that Tremor could take: the heavy artilery section is already taken by static structures. Having them EMP everything would just look silly. A bunch of sparks falling from the sky?

quote: I did some testing vs nullAI. If you target an area shield with a tremor, all of its shots will hit the shield. One tremor is also sufficient to drain up to around 5 area shields within a practical amount of time. If there were 6 shields I think you'd probably need a second tremor, but that's still less than cost.

This is why I think the unit is weighted too heavy - something that can be produced with more granularity for fighting 1-2 shields would be far more useful in a competitive game.

I'd like to drop Tremor DPS and ramp up Tremor AoE so it is dropping riot-cannon size blasts. Would make it better at flattening and at clearing out blobs, which it currently sucks at.

Give Tremor 600EMP with huge AOE.
Considering the fact it's inaccurate, the EMP can only be really useful against swarms, something HT might like.

quote: don't really see any niche that Tremor could take: the heavy artilery section is already taken by static structures. Having them EMP everything would just look silly. A bunch of sparks falling from the sky

It isn't just pure EMP, it has it's standard damage and the EMP

It isn't a niche, it will be a way to circumvent armies/destroy them in large numbers whilst being safe from counterattack.
Or it could be a mobile "piss off" turret, keeping enemy forces from advancing furher

I suggest that every tremor projectile will blow like licho shoot when contact with target.