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NeonSturm 12 years ago * Freaker with 9 BP and 650 HP costs 240, 2.25 speed and is not AT, jump need some micro * Weaver with 9 BP and 750 HP costs 200, 1.8 speed and is AT. * Necro with 6 BP and 660 HP costs 130, 2 speed and is not AT, but has Rezz. I would prefer to build 1.7 Necros or 1.2 Weavers instead of a single Freaker - that's not only more scaleable early game, but also more efficient if you spread them for metal spots or have more build power. We should buff Freakers HP, give it a bit more speed, reduce the cost, or even give it rez instead of the shield bot constructor. If Necro costs only 120 but loses rez and Freaker get rez and costs 300 + has 12 build power + has 2.4 speed or more HP it would be much cooler. The shield bot con can get a shield :) +0 / -0
Antelope 12 years ago Yeah, I never understood why Shieldbots lab got the rez ability. It doesn't really fit into the theme of the lab. It definitely makes more sense for the Jump/SPECIALTY lab to get the rez ability. +0 / -0
jiero 12 years ago No, it shall be the cloaky getting it... cloaky way to create unit... lol or airborn - +0 / -0
GoogleFrog 12 years ago I think Freaker is fine. It has jump and speed, both are very important. As for Rez it could take that ability. Necro rez is not there for any good reason. +0 / -0
That80sJanitor 12 years ago Reduce the cost for the Freaker? +0 / -0
MrPingu 12 years ago Rez does not fit into the theme of shieldlab, would fit much better for specialist, since it already has the puppy which works with reclaim, pyros that use wrecks to their advantage by being able to shoot through. Would fit much better into the theme. +0 / -0
sprang 12 years ago The question is, what awesome would the shieldcon get in place of the rez? Or would it just be plain n' boring? +0 / -0
sprang 12 years ago Giving it a shield was suggested. This could work... +0 / -0
[1uP]Willk 12 years ago Agreed. Giving the shieldbot con a shield would make sense, as for one thing it would make it better support to Thug+Felon, and it fits the lab. +0 / -0
GoogleFrog 12 years ago Maybe shield could be added. I think a major change would be health because constructor attributes really show during the expansion and raiding part of the game. In that phase shields would not be useful. +0 / -0
NeonSturm 12 years ago with 120 metal costs, it could be the cheapest mobile source of buildpower right after the ship constructor. +0 / -0
Skasi 12 years ago Jump > AT, it's simple as that. Both allow you to climb almost any hill, jump additionally allows you to pass some rivers. It needs more micro tho', yup. +0 / -0
[DE]Rick 12 years ago dont forget jump is 10x faster than AT on a hill. +0 / -0
jiero 12 years ago Necro with shield + 1 LLT could beat few rockos or beat 1 Scorcher. +0 / -0
Pxtl 12 years ago I've got a NeonStormesque elaborate re-jiggering of the labs floating about in Google Docs that I won't bore you with, but basic idea for a new Shieldbot con special power: Idle-only shield. The shield has a low maximum and a fast regen so it's good for bringing the shields of other shielded units up from zero. However, it is only "on" when the Shield Con is immobile and not working. When the shield-con starts working, it turns "off" and disappears quickly. +0 / -0
Antelope 12 years ago No, I really like the idea of a shielded con. I would give it a shorter build range to FORCE it to build units inside the shield. That would allow a shield con to erect an LLT or defender while under light fire from scouts. How often does one of your cons die just before it erects an LLT that could save it? IMO, this makes the unit WAY more interesting, and allows us to place the rez ability in the Jump factory, which also makes more sense. The ability to rez a unit seems like more of a "special" ability, while the ability to build while under fire seems like more of an "assault" ability. +0 / -0
[V]sheep 12 years ago I like the idea of a shielded con and giving rez ability to freaker, it feels very consistent. On the insignificant side, Necro would then need a new name, for consistency... +0 / -0
ScionMalth 12 years ago If you're going to give it the rez take its jump... one unit with all the special/fun skills feels ... OP? maybe.. I do like the idea of the shieldbot con getting a shield and not having the rez, but I just don't like the idea of two special/fun skills in one fac's con bot... +0 / -0
GoogleFrog 12 years ago The jumpject factory theme seems to be several special abilities per unit. Pyro can jump, fire through units and set things on fire. Jump itself has many uses. Puppy replicates and dies on attack. +0 / -0
GoogleFrog 12 years ago If you gave Necro a shield how would it compare to Thug in terms of regen, size and capacity? Would Necro be able to cost more for the shield? It is currently the cheapest constructor but the cost difference to Rector is small enough that I don't think 'cheapest constructor' is a particularly important thing to maintain. +0 / -0

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