In this game, we see @Kurosei do almost nothing to contribute to the war effort. Instead, he makes nothing but lobsters while north struggles to hold.

If you want to resign, just resign and go play coop or something.

Trolling with lobsters? Its a legitimate emergent gameplay for you!

Ideally there would be a way of indicating that you're going to be playing experimentally that the balancer would take into account.

Unfortunately, I'm struggling to see a way that wouldn't result in people gaming it to get easy/relaxed games.

If it was a legit strategy, we as a team would have gained more utility than what we got in this game. We wouldn't feel like we were down a player. Instead what ended up happening is they did pretty much nothing but blow up a few units while wasting quite a bit of metal.

The rest of us north struggled while he had fun at OUR expense. We were down a player in north and had no mid because "he wanted to go bomb snitches". The snitches did nothing and provided no utility to us as a team. He did not bother to eco or do anything besides spam snitches. Mid was ceded just to "play with snitches" and because of that, we were constantly flanked and were fighting out ecoed. I do not think it is fair to those of us who were struggling fighting outnumbered north.

It isn't fair Firepluk gets a ban for stuff that's more effective than this crap.

Yes, I was banned because I amm generaly speaking behave like an asshole in ZK and i do not deny it. Now, I just noticed your discontent with Omoiyari can be just as easily applied to yourself, ok? When you and terve are snitchbombing, it is just the same as his lobstering.

Dont wanna go into specifics about here... I made my point. People just need to stand up to their own standards.

Snitch bombing is only 260m (160m if charon is recovered) per bombing run and is generally effective while being moderately low risk. I've seen single runs take out 1.7k+ metal of units. These provide utility as an alternative to air bombing runs. These can swing the tides of engagements pretty easily and can damage/kill comms.

Lobster clouds cost upwards of 2k for a single use. More often than not they do not make cost as they're typically deployed against single comms or units worth less than the losses taken.

quote: People just need to stand up to their own standards.

If you took the time to understand what I am saying, you would know that I am in reference to this thread which was not even my standard that I am attempting to create or enforce. A precedent was established when Firepluk got banned for "not playing as a team member", @Kurosei here violated that standard when he decided to make a 2k lobster ball which did pretty much fuck all except donating metal to the enemy.

quote: Dont wanna go into specifics about here... I made my point. People just need to stand up to their own standards.

You don't have a point here as these are two completely different pieces of evidence. You just want to start forum drama (as evident by your mocking post and your generally condescending attitude in other posts replying to me). Not only have roach drops been shown to be effective beyond any measure of doubt, when we as a group do roach bombings or our other stuff, we do attempt to provide other means of support to the team, usually with griding, fusion reactors, assisting allied projects, repairs, or attempting to get rid of threats with the roach bombs. In addition to this, we are very clearly reactive to battlefield conditions and attempt to maximize our win chances. There is a CLEAR attempt at providing utility and often times we do as terve886 points out.

While it may still be too early to decide if it is objectively bad, Thomas1/Kurosei has had selective play styles in the past when we are historically on the same team. These include: instantly resigning, playing suboptimally, etc. This combined with his unwarranted antagonistic behavior in the pregame has lead me to think he under performed on purpose.

quote: Wow, you guys sure got defensive here. Look, I didnt try to start anything nasty, ok? Just stated my impressions. You can go look up graphs in any of Shaman's snitching parties... easily most metal wasted. And winrate, I can guess, is not stellar. Thing is, you can bomb with Likho and get back alive. Can you get backk with Charon once enemy has ANY AA? I seen in in action and I do not understand your infatuation with snitchbombing, guys. I hereby summon AUrankAdminGoogleFrog or any other authority member to settle snitchbombing matter once and for all! My question is: Is snitchbombing a viable and honest game tactic or it its shameful lobbery?!

You should also see the metal killed graphs of any of these games. Name a game, and infer a timeframe of bombing and compare the kill value vs loss value and factor in damage dealt for glancing hits.

Ok thanks Aquanim... Seems like I'm in the wrong here, so I'll see myself out.