This map has four mexs that each give 5.38 metal. Even under limited overdrive, they can exceed 20 metal each.

Maybe these super mexs should be reduced to around 3.0. This map seems to end up with slippery slope porc wars.

Yes!! Wholeheartedly agree. There are also many other maps that have the same problem, for example MountainPass and Deltasiege Deluxe.

While super-overdriveable mexes is an interesting map concept, having the middle of the map be full of them leads to slippery slope, not good gameplay. These maps are designed for BA where no overdrive exists, and I'd be glad if they all were re-tuned for ZK.

Slippery slope porc wars what?

I think the very powerful mexes are ok given their location. Two are either side of middle of the map and are in weak locations. The others are in front of bases and at that point the losing team should lose quickly.

i think they are fine map features, don't change things so dramatically.

Which two spots? Ideally neither team would be able to take the two middle spots for a while and once they take them the game would end quickly. A good slippery slope curve has a large flat bit in the middle where the game is undecided followed by steep cliffs once it is clear one side has lost.

Megamexes make the layout more interesting.
And in general most resources should not be in middle but on sides

Why are megamexes so persecuted? I think they can work well and they do work well on this map.

I suggested the megamex removal because games here tend to be very one-sided. All one has to do is claim the megamexes in middle, porc and connect to OD grid for a few minutes, and victory is pretty much assured because of massive eco advantage.

I prefer maps where one has a chance at a comeback if pushed back. The megamexes here remove that element.

I think GoogleFrog's analysis of this particular map's megamexes is sound, and while the mexes producing 5+ metal are ridonculous, they happen to work ok gameplaywise here.

The megamexes placed near both teams' starting areas are much easier to hold though, and serve more as buffs to overdrive and singus rather than interesting spots to fight for.


I'd like to note that most of the maps with megamexes (well, most of maps in general) are designed with BA gameplay in mind, not with the fact that in ZK megamexes can be relatively easily made to produce huge quantities of metal with overdrive. I'll go so far as to say that if a megamex map plays well in ZK, it is mostly because of chance, since the mapmaker hasn't thought of this while designing the map.

So, personally I'm not against megamexes as a deliberate design choice, but the BA maps' megamex decisions are pretty random when translated directly to ZK.

but: this adds to this map. dont make all maps the same...