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Let's talk about Scallops vs Sea

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9 years ago
Sea? What sea? Scallop monospam seems to hard-counter all of sea.
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9 years ago
Wait do you mean that one could go into water into ZK? Who knew!
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9 years ago
didnt scallops get nerfed? I dont think theres much more to talk about
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9 years ago
Claymore.
Serpent.
Terraformed Urchin.

Your argument is invalid.
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9 years ago
Rafal's not wrong.

Serpent is like a sharpshooter underwater with more range, which is huge.

Terra'd urchins are literally invincible to them. Which makes them feel more like a pain gate than a static defense. They will hit you for so long as you're within their 600 range, and scallops are slooooow. Urchins in general make a lot of cost too.

Claymore kills them one hit in an area of effect for around the same price. Is also faster. Lol.

Hunter beats them for cost with auto-kite, but is a less generalist unit.

Snakes don't beat them straight up, but are very fast and difficult to keep track of. They one shot ducks which makes the raider game a pain in the ass, then will often out maneuver scallops either picking them off or damaging eco/suppressing expansion.

If water is not too deep, wyvern can decimate them repeatedly.

Current iteration of scallop is a good unit, but nowhere near its old power level when it was a skirmisher while underwater. I see them as a vital part of water comp in team games, but in 1v1 especially, amph struggles in the variety of threats they can field. Once scallop is countered further adaptation usually requires fac switch.

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9 years ago
!map.
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9 years ago
Sands of War
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9 years ago
!map hard counters underwater scalops most of the time
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9 years ago
The original plan involved an underwater unguided torpedo skirmisher slash floating hammer-like artillery named either Lobster or Kraken.

Afair it was also supposed to be stop to fire hammer on land, e.g. strictly like its floating function.

It's even implemented afaik, but was blocked by GF in order to see what riotscallop would do unchecked.
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the other day i made underwater low wall.. enemy scallops got stuck .. and torpedo can fire over wall from raised urchin.. terra is very good vs scallops
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9 years ago
Urchin is your friend.
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9 years ago
I was impressed how Scallops could fire BOTH their torpedoes and shotgun when in shallow water!
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9 years ago
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I was impressed how Scallops could fire BOTH their torpedoes and shotgun when in shallow water!

And imagine when whey did that with both riot + skirmisher weapon....
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9 years ago
i used hovers.. barley took some sea from enemy.. i built a mix and they built a mix of ships.. switched to scallops.. pwned whole enemy front-line and they resign.. scallops are powerful
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