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Hacksaw is not mean to kill Avengers

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BRrankFortaleza
11 years ago
Plz, remover Avenger (and even vamps) from Hacksaw possible targets list.
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ESrankElTorero
11 years ago
+1
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EErankAdminAnarchid
11 years ago
Please, remove alll hardwired target category proponents from this thread.
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GBrank[GBC]Fred
11 years ago
no it isn't

but they're there for two reasons
to kill other aircraft
and to distract aa from bombers
so they Are there to die from hacksaw
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MYrankxponen
11 years ago
IMO a less drastic approach is to set Avenger & Vamp as lower priority for Hacksaw. So it prefer to shoot bomber but doesn't prevent us from using it against any other stuff.
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LTrank[pikts]wolas
11 years ago
If it flies it kills! Simple as it is. -1.

Yes its easy to counter hacksaws by sending 1 avenger.
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CZrank[DDAM]aiphee
11 years ago
(edited 11 years ago)
Mby just add button to switch kill all / kill bombers and vindicator only.

Whih bothers me more is that Screamer is wasting amo on bomb drones, there would be some switch much more usefull.
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USrankCrakKCRacKKrAkK
11 years ago
I play air often, and AA is mostly unbearably overpowering - UNLESS you can bait it with an avenger and they are not micro managing. This is not a design flaw, its a balancing feature. Its a tactical counter to OP ground AA without having to nerf/buff anything. Having target priorities makes sense, but dont hacksaws already target bombers before fighters? How is the AI supposed to predict whether or not its a stray target or a bait? Can AI see the future and know unseen bombers are comming and hold their fire? Thats YOUR responsibility. Pay attention, put it on hold fire, zoom out (highly recommended for targeting air units) and right click the bomber.

A target-this-only button would be nice too yes. I would love to discover this turret only targets bombers and then kill it with an avenger mob or some gunships.
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DErankSinKitty
11 years ago
+1 to switches.

But issue on screamer is: Screamer needs los to distinguish targets
* if the target isn't scouted before and still within radar range.
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GBrankKyubey
11 years ago
+1 to nerf ground AA
its already too op
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FIranksprang
11 years ago
If hacksaw had a toggle to make it not fire at avengers and vamps, I'd use it almost all the time.
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DErankKlon
11 years ago
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IMO a less drastic approach is to set Avenger & Vamp as lower priority for Hacksaw. So it prefer to shoot bomber but doesn't prevent us from using it against any other stuff.


its this way already, it never shoot fighters when bombers are in range - just that the planes player will send his 1 avenger first and trigger reload time, then come the bombers.
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ROrankForever
11 years ago
-1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111.I hope this answers your question.You guys really think that making 300 metal aa will stop everything comming your base, and you want to be invincible.If we make screamer to not attack blastwings, or defence structurs that dont attack dirtbags, or your proposal to make aa filter planes and attack the ones you want it wont be fair.If you want to attack them, put them on hold fire give them a group and attack them when they come.Plane player always microes units when he attacks or sends decoys so making a bit of micro with your aa wont be that hard.
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DErankSinKitty
11 years ago
the reason why Avenger costs 150m and scout planes got removed was, that hacksaws would be not worth it's cost with these available.

And forcing decoys wasn't the intention of anti bomber structures.

Devs wanted a game where everything can shoot at everything, but we also need some restrictions to allow a good balance - at least switchable restrictions.
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GBrankKyubey
11 years ago
(edited 11 years ago)
^.^ well then, how about ecm, stealth armor, anti missile PD cannons, chaff, flares, and super high altitude for bombers?

and failure chance, and targeting error for missiles

that seems reasonable, and realistic

btw, thats how its done irl(-PD since the ai isn't strong enough yet)

o and to top it off, all bombers carry tac nukes, and licho carries a nuke
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DErankSinKitty
11 years ago
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Shield = missile point defense.

Structural integrity fields would be much more fun, because then you have shield AND you can dodge.
Or give buildings more hp even if your area shields are down.

^WELCOME PORC WARS^[/color]

Real tactical missiles are guided by gps systems.
Why should they have targeting errors?
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DErankKlon
11 years ago
because why not?
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RUrankbanana_Ai
11 years ago
(edited 11 years ago)
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GBrankKyubey
11 years ago
(edited 11 years ago)
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Real tactical missiles are guided by gps systems.


do you mean cruise missiles? or nukes?

cause most enemy fighter pilots are not that courteous that they will give you a constantly updating 3D gps coordinate acurate to 5 meters...

most anti fighter missiles are heat seeking, there are a few that use othere methods, but they can all be ecm scrambled, or spoofed.
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EErankAdminAnarchid
11 years ago
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but they can all be ecm scrambled, or spoofed.

Not when they're beam-riders :P
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