I am getting totally fed up with this game. 1) juggler 2) new troll vote option, lavarise
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Kinda agree. No troll options on juggled rooms.
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Juggler appears to be working great. When we last had this?  Just dont try to fight split of the battle.
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2) is the issue. ZK is not short on brazen, self confessed trolls who are going to abuse the crap out of this.
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The issues are not troll options, but trolls itself. Once the community is big enough, it will split into a troll part and a normal part - the problem is mostly solved.
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We had whole ONE game with lavarise option and you already go complain on forums. And it was chosen by majority with 5 votes, not by some troll abuse. Many people haven't seen the lava option in action yet, so they wanted to give it a try. After the game finished noone spammed votes for lava again and we played a normal game. Don't call everything you don't agree with "troll", there are 2 other hosts where you can play instead of endless complaining. As for Juggler it works really great at the moment. Hopefully it will stay like that.
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>it will split into a troll part and a normal part I'm imagining the future from the novel The Time Traveler. You've got a wonderful paradise inhabited by people who do whatever they want all day. Then you've got a subterranean species of trolls.
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hes just mad he sucks at z-k ragequitI plan to bitch too when I rage quit for the 3rd time over my comm burning to death underwater
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Problem was we were juggled in after 1s game is starting nobody even know that this is with lava ON. And later this can be annoying lets say trolls having their own game, but people can be juggled in last second and they actually dont want to play such games
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Such issues can be addressed when we have working lobby for linux.
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Notalobby seems to work rather fine(at least it dont eat much resources like springlobby does), except I hate that juggler instantly juggles me even if I m spectator, disabling juggler each time when you want just be... well yeah needs button or something. Actually whole lobby thing needs rethink. For example no more rooms of current battle -> no more raging, window flashing changed battles each second, broken conversations when you are juggled. Left you see chat with many people for example "Medium teams chat", or "juggler chat", or whatever, right possible battles. But still if there would be 100+ active players chating would get complicated so there needs some clever concept to make juggler more appealing. Now if you dont want to chat and ignore that window flashing it is ok. This is old picture when juggler was annoying(before it was disabled). Maybe some people will come up with better ideas. At least in my opinion this is biggest issue currently. http://postimage.org/image/ck2kl799l/
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please, replays of raging nubs burning in lava? \o/
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I think its obvious none of us knew about lava... except maybe the guy who won the game for us :) http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/74900
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http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/74900Read first message same was for me you got randomly juggled in and after few seconds game is starting without you knowing that this is lava or something. Actually lava is boring.
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there needs a be a huge flashing message that ensures everyone knows this is a lava game.
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First lava game is annoying, especially if you have been juggled 3 times in the course of 1 minute and have no idea what game you landed in and what the options are. Game ends (soon enough, fortunately, after all, it is lava). Within 10 seconds after game stops everyone gets juggled again and lo and behold you enter a room where someone who was in the previous game as well has entered a vote for lavarise. It's a democracy so, really, I cant stop you from voting 1, but, if I want to play I cannot go to another room because I will be insta-juggled back again. Not fun. This is apart from the fact that a lavagame has nothing to do with RTS whatsoever, it is simply a wild dash to highest point on the map and hope to survive there. Trololo is a much better experience than a lavagame.
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Lava was made specifically for Trololo, silly Gretchen and I've seen some really interesting games on it that I wouldn't have seen otherwise. Anyway, it works on many maps with many different settings. It just doesn't on some, but using this option on those is the players' fault, not juggler's or the option's. Everyone is right when they say it needs a starting screen displaying all modoptions off the defaults.
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And I would like to add: 3) why does it stay the same map if it is a short game? (I know the answer to that, but I dont have to like it) 4) why does a split room always end up with the same initial map which turns out to be a bit small when all the juggling is finally over?
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I dont contest that lava might arguably make for some interesting games, silly Skasi, just that I hate landing into one unawares. Or being force juggled into one when I dont want to play them. Personally, I think lava games suck, because they invariably end up in com wars. The one good map for it being hotstepper and there you know, beforehand, when the lava will rise and by how much.
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Quickmatch has no way to deal with the concept of "put me in a game that matches my preferences - but not this game". There are lots of reasons why you might not want to play a game which otherwise matches your preferences, lava or trololo being but two of them.
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