Purposal to change phoenix

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jiero 5 years ago (edited 5 years ago) Thanks to Shaman, https://zero-k.info/Forum/Post/199483#199483 check his video show-off a possibility of new phoenix if possible https://streamable.com/p4j7f Make Raven - Phoenix - Likho steps up, at cost of 300, 1000, 2000. Grant phoenix much greater damaging potential, survivability and speed, meanwhile not to break skirmisher balance, one blow would only kill 500-600 metal worth units Cost 1000 - high enough not to break the skirmisher balance Hitpoints 1420 Vision 660 Movement Speed 270 elmo/s Correct me if my phrase/English is not understandable. Edit: 30/03/2019 to Credit Shaman for making the showcase, thank you Dr0ppy pointing out +2 / -0
katastrophe 5 years ago go enemy base - hit all eco in 1 blow??? don´t you think that thing is a bit overpowered? +0 / -0
raaar 5 years ago 1000 is too much, how about 600? +1 / -0
Manu12 5 years ago Air midgame support shall no longer be swift + thunderbird only! +1 / -0
[GBC]1v0ry_k1ng 5 years ago Personally I'd like the phoenix to rise from the dead back under player control if not reclaimed :) +6 / -0
nop 5 years ago The Phoenix looks fast, but when I use it I feel like it takes forever to catch up with a target. A couple of ideas: Make it really fast until it drops bombs, then slow for return flight. This helps it respond quickly to raider blobs (which it should be good at) without making it impossible to shoot down. Kind of like the Aurora from C&C Generals. Or the reverse, make it slow when laden with bombs and fast for the return flight. This helps with survivability and uptime. The "shouldn't it be slower when loaded with bombs?" approach. +0 / -0
Shaman 5 years ago Funny mv. +0 / -1
sh4dowhun7er 5 years ago (edited 5 years ago) My suggestion: -increase health to 1.5x that of raven -increase cost -slightly increase napalm width, slightly reduce length -napalm heals friendly units instead of hurting them (phoenix tears effect) (alternatively phoenix has a d-gun that rains down healing nanites over an area) ((another alternative would be ressurection bombs that restore a part of the ressurection meter of hit wrecks; if it is full the wreck becomes alive controlled by the owner of the last phoenix to hit it)) -when it dies, it spreads a pool of team-healing fire around the wreck - if this wreck is not destroyed within let's say 30s, it ressurects in a napalm missile explosion and is invisible/unrevealable for the first 10s (to get to safety); it needs to reload though before being able to attack +0 / -0
Dr0ppy 5 years ago (edited 5 years ago) 1, too high cost. like, no. too expensive. 1k metal for a piece of paper. just no. the rest doesn't even matter. Also should reeeally credit who made that clip, you know. Aka _Shaman +0 / -0
Majo 5 years ago Give it Swift boost but 2x for 5 seconds. +0 / -0
4hundred 5 years ago I tear my hair out when a targeted blip disapears for a split second (mountain or something)and target lost so bomber dies without dropping payload, at least with firebomber would be nice to have them dump bombs where blip was last seen. Some may say, just target the ground, sure, but often the blip will be targeted, unless ground target carefully placed amungst a clump of blips. Maybe a target ground button, ignoring blips? +4 / -0

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