Infiltrator does 8000 damage and 40s max stun. 40s stun occurs if a unit has 2x it's max health in emp damage so that commander must have had almost 8000 hp. Simply use 2 Infiltrators.

Sometimes you need to use 2 infiltrators. We could increase the weight of infiltrators so that only one always works, but then it is worse vs cans, reapers, etc.

If it is felt that. A. Heavy units dominate too much and there is not enough appropriate anti-heavy B. The spy uses a good mechanic, with the cloak-and-1-shot. C. It is well placed for people to use in the situation that they are faced with megacoms, in the spider factory. D. It is too weak for its intended purpose...

We could just flat out buff the damage. It had 10k. But as I recall, people complained about the unit, mostly because of B- the mechanic is very hardcounter.

I forget if the damage was complained about. It has not had 10k for a while and that does nothing to early comm balance. I gave it 8k to emphasise the role of emping damaged units. For example Reaper is more effectively stunned if a bit damaged beforehand. It is good that 2 are required for the really large units.

The lower damage changes how the unit is used. With high damage, it is an opener- a big unit is walking down the middle of the map, you zap it with a spy and then move your forces in. With the lower damage, its more of a closer- your whole army of spiders is dead to a sumo or dante invasion, but you managed to pump out a spy and zap him before he can eat your base.

It may be a bad mechanic that any unit at any time if not surrounded by raiders on all sides can get zapped for the whole stun time: but it is only stun. The skuttle has a much more brutal mechanic.

Anyway, whether we bump the unit up to its old stats (Or bring the cost down? But it is so micro heavy...) depends on how we feel about how heavy units are playing in the game etc.

I think it is great and doesn't need changing. 2 of them stun everything except mechs.

>By the time, you have 6 solar to power it.

It used to require only like 6 energy (not 12) to power the cloak while walking. It was changed because 6 energy is not much, and people were using spies as a pure starting strategy far too much. Many, many coms were killed in the first 3 minutes of every game due to a spy + raider rush.

Requiring 12 energy per spy is perfect because it doesn't nerf the late-game ability of the spy but reduces its rushability quite a bit.

I think it would be better with more damage.. I dont like to use it as a counter against golly etc because a bunch are needed and its too easy for one of them to get uncloaked and squashed en route, foiling the attempt. prefer skuttle... 2x the price, but a permanent solution

Commanders were immune to EMP in CA.

Idea: give it a cloak field. Not just a personal cloak, but a short-ranged version of the Eraser's field. Then its obscenely high E-cost could be justified because you can field two of them but keep one turned off.

If it gets a buff it should be a damage buff.