Unable to find matches under current MM elo weight

Now people start to realize that how absurd the current elo weight for mm matching is. This is the reason why we have 45 min q when there is 5 available and can't even launch a single 2v2.

There is nothing wrong with teaming up. RTS is about strategy. It means trust. Trust and predict what your enemy will do, what your ally will do. There is just nothing more comforting than getting "sending penns omw" from your ally when your spider is under firewalker. Fighting with a stranger you have not ever heard or met is not making the game more "strategic".

Teaming up is getting suppressed; the elo matching range will even become shorter according to this post(http://zero-k.info/Forum/Thread/25687), and that's evil. The original author of this post doesn't even frequently play mm anymore and the inability of seeking someone you can trust with and predicting the game got officially encouraged without even a vote at the expenses of other people's (those who are coming prepared and who are working hard to strategically play.) time.

That opens the new point: Why can a single dev with a gigantic permission change a setting without a vote in an opensource community? Dev is having too much rights and abusing rights brings no good to the community. This is what currently happening in other opensource communities too, because core developers are abusing their rights, we have OpenBSD, we have dragonflyBSD and freeBSD, we have warzone2100 and we have linux distribution vs android. Vote is good, and please keep voting even on the very basic dev level. It shows what majority thinks.

Therefore, in conclusion, I do not think teaming up is bad, and its elo matching range shouldn't be deducted.Vote may not be able to solve everything, and for the balancing issue it may also suggest the opposite as this post suggested, however, I believe a vote gives a better result than someone asking someone else who in charge of summer pw and all of the sudden setting changed after all.

Cheers

In every competitive game there is a vocal minority like this. They try to claim that some unfair advantage is good somehow when really I think they just want to win.

If you look at the other thread (why didn't you post there?) all except one post are agreeing with the OP. Also -- this is people who post on the forum.

90% of people who experience terrible games like that are just gonna uninstall the game. No post, no visibility, nothing, just gone. Maybe you see it as "Lobsters uninstall lol" or something but its really bad in the long run.

To me its very clear that the community doesn't like this premade teamstacking rubbish -- I think only you would complain if it was banned entirely. Its fundamentally not competitive, frankly.

While I have seen the idea ("don't like losing because they'll lose elo for it."), not sure it is something we need to agree/encourage/fix. What if I say "people like building storage so that they build fast"? Solution to this is not to give infinite resources, but rather to teach (somehow) that you want to build fast you need to expand.

Back to rating systems, the WHR (it is not ELO) is not a "resource". You can't "loose" it. You can be very good (then you have high WHR) - and you need to constantly prove it by playing, or you are not that good (then you have lower WHR).

Now, people are irrational, and this is a game, so maybe we need to tell everybody something that he is the "best" at, even if it is not completely true/relevant. Example: in the last X games you played, you are rank Y in how many turrets you did, how many mexes you made, how much energy you produced, etc. And choose X small enough to be high rank enough to keep people happy.

I would just like to point out what a success this system seems to be. Thread/petition is made asking for some improvement/change. Community discusses and sides for or against the idea. Admins implements favored change. Opposing parties post counter-petitions and community discusses the effects of said change.

Edit: Also, in regards to trust: just like people have the freedom to play with or against others, others have the freedom to play with or against "them". Matchmakers are not designed to just throw arriving lobsters into the fire as fast as humanly possible. They are designed to help match ranks. For everything else, there's mastercard there's custom games.

In memoriam to all those brave souls who didn't make it out of the great Steam release of 2018 alive, rest in peace: