Future of weblobby

Hello. I am ikinz and I maintain weblobby (aka swl). In its day swl served us well as a lobby client that wasn't butt-ugly, was more stable and didn't suffer from weird ZKL bugs and updates. It provided a working alternative during the nuZKL release fiasco. For a long time it was the superior way of idling in chat. I think we had a good run.

Since then two things happened:

• Chobby has grown up into a beautiful young lobby and it's only getting better.
• We got Discord integration. Discord is the chat idling solution. It even has mobile!

For the past few weeks I've been idling in discord and using chobby to play. This seems to work well, and I find myself never having the urge to open swl instead.

I don't really want to maintain zk lobby server support. To tell you a secret, I actually haven't been doing it for a while now, MM only happened thanks to DeinFreund. Even that is incomplete (doesn't show the "1v1 available nao!" thing, etc). I'm thinking I'll probably disable MM (maybe just filter the coop queue out?) and then tell people to stop using it to play zk (you can still idle in chat I guess) and if it works, it's by accident.

Two things can change that:

• Several people posting here telling me how swl is the best thing to ever happen to them and the prettiest lobby and please I want full zk server support and here's a list of reasons why I don't want to use discord+chobby.
• Someone stepping up to do all the work.

I'm not discontinuing swl proper. I just don't want to maintain support for latest zk server features when chobby does it better and it changes often and having swl in the wild makes testing more annoying for GoogleFrog.

[Evo]ForbodingAngel nothing changes as far as you're concerned (otherwise I would talk to you first instead of pulling the rug from under you!). This is exclusively about making swl work with ZKLS. It still supports spring lobby server and if that breaks, I'll fix it.

Maybe you meant that it's concerning as an indication that I'm thinking about dropping swl altogether fairly soon and that's the first step. I can't really say that's true, spring server is much more conservative and it doesn't take much time to maintain swl there. It's not exactly in active development, and I'd love for someone to help, but I'm not planning on killing swl entirely any time soon. A year from now? It's gonna live. 2 years? I'll think about it, depends on what happens with chobby and evo and that BA installer by tzaeru and whether someone joins in.

I liked the SWL over ZKL except a few things. One of them, which made me go back to ZKL was, that on weaker computers (minę isnt quite a NASA computer) Swl failed to keep up with chat !Y !N spam. Chat lines appeared at rate of one line every ~0.5 second. Adding this to the fact that each !N created 3 lines, and we have a pretty big delay.

Doesnt sound very bothering, but in 10v10 game it took the swl a coupled of minutes to realize sth Has changed. And if a quick !Map and !Start happened, my lobby started initializing the startup of ZK after the game (the actual match) Has started.
Resulting in the !Kick Failer polls.

In ZKL it never was the case

please keep weblobby. It is fantastic, and operates well on my linux systems.

The UI is simple and sleek without any messy graphics in the background.

I am a big fan of being able to "alt tab" back to the lobby client while in game, or while loading.

If my game gets bugged/frozen, i don't have to restart everything from scratch, just kill process, and "start game" in the lobby.

Also, i have found that Chobby would cause me some bugs, but they would come and go, and depended on what other programs i was running at the same time as Chobby, since i tend to multitask a lot.

+1 for weblobby.

would be cool to keep a bare minimum working - chat, hosting/joining rooms
when chobby has a problem it's good if there is something simpler available

quote: Looks like Chobby may be broken

Sorry, what's broken?

EDIT: Nvm, saw the other thread now.