Juggler screwing up

Several games in a row now the game is started, then everyone is moved before we've even placed coms. The game is declared over, and everyone is moved to another server.

Then when we start the new game, same thing happens. 10 seconds into game we are all given move command again.

http://pastebin.com/MTGi1Df2

So why did the Juggler mass-move everyone?

http://imgur.com/9xlbZ

Juggler is differnet thing. Issue here is anomalous game over right after start.

Change the juggler into a quickmatch start button...

So going back to this...

All my preferences were set to never.

Can you honestly tell me that this was (unrelated) game-over bug, when Juggler still attempted to move me?

That doesn't make any sense.

There should still be a way to not use it.

I find myself not using juggler. I have set up my preferences for the average case but they change so rapidly. This isn't a conscious effort to use or not use juggler, I just find that mostly when I am moved I move back to where I was. This is the case for FFA when I need to be somewhere within the next 3 hours and for 1v1 when the ELO settings were too broad.

Anyway not to say it is bad, just that I don't seem to be using it and there are probably some people in the same situation. Juggler overall is very good and seems to have improved activity but some may want to idle in the lobby and move themselves around. Moving these people has a negative effect if they are not going to play in the game they are moved to.

I would still try to use Juggler as it has improved a bit and I don't mind if I am moved between PW and teamgames as they are much the same thing.

Good idea to manually deactivate / activate it is better But pls first setting is deactivated, you don't know how many new players wonder why they get kicked? Thats not good for a bigger community.
And its really annoying you just watch a game and game ends, you idle there wooops your are kicked (sl) or moved when with zk lobby. Really annoying.
What is about the option that Juggler writes a private message to those players with the settings which fit.

In general I like the idea but not this way. :)

>Set it according to your preferences.

Christ, my preference changes on a minute-by-minute basis.

Example: usually I don't want to play chickens because they are total nubfests that are either too easy or have me raging at incompetent players. But sometimes I'll see a chickens room full of players I enjoy playing with so I'll join. This is actually the case with most battles I play - I really don't care what TYPE of battle it is, as long as there are players there that I want to play wtih.

Juggler has ZERO idea of who I'd like to play with, and in that regard it fails 100%.

I don't want to have to visit the ZK page every single time I see a battle I want to join. My preference is THE BATTLE I AM CURRENTLY IN. How do you not understand that by now?

Not possible because of SpringLobby/Tasclient .. we would leave those players out.