Crasher improvements.

I suggest increasing speed: Buff strengths, nerf weaknesses.

Slahser sucks agains air

wait wut, crasher is weak?

can this be demonstrated?

i dont think they are weak at all

Kyubey, they are alright as speedy supporters. Range and speed makes kiting gunships viable too (except for OPbrawler). I think on large not-perfectly-flat maps they might be awful though because they take longer to arrive where needed and that's more important for AA than other units. That said, maybe they shouldn't be a good choice on such maps, ZK already had many "make all facstarts viable on any map" changes.

My first post should probably be read as "IF they are changed, then..."

Fealthas, the battle you linked had opbrawlers. Crashers fail at turning/changing directions, so dodging opbrawler projectiles is extra hard.

No, Vamps were a bad choice. Brawlers happen to counter Vamps pretty well. The solution is probably Swift/Raven spam and maybe archangel/gremlin/vandal/cobra as they have high continuous dps compared to other mobile AAs low dps high burst.

Sort of. Except for the fact that crashers are rarely the actual target of the bombers; you usually want to protect something with your AA. In that case, it won't help if the crashers flee.

I think mobile AA needs some work, even Jethros, which are arguably the best mobile AA with their speed, power and utility, seem to sometimes lose vs bombers, and many of the other AA is weaker. Things like speed, range and HP are not necessarily a direct exchange for DPS/cost because it's DPS/cost which actually stops the bombers, and if you don't have enough of this, you aren't cost efficient.

All mobile AA has a kind of role, Tarantulas are great mid and late game at hiding on hills and sniping air, Flak has AoE, Crasher is fast. But the use-case for 1v1 is almost always: Can it effectively kill Shadows. If you can't do that, you are much weaker to air starts or switches in a 1v1.

I'd also consider some secondary utility, like radar on the Crasher, shields on the Vandal, etc.

Frankly I prefer static to mobile AA, creating a domain where bombers must pay a cost to enter, where this communication between air player and ground player is clear, unlike, say, Jethro's, where it's just 'Surprise! You lose all your bombers!'. But the only practical AA to build early is defender spam (ugh) or Razors Kiss (Which is really hardened AA, and does not create a land-snipable point of failure). Flak and Chainsaw are too expensive to fit in this gap, and Hacksaw is owled, so we keep using rkiss.

But anyway, air is GoogleFrog's domain.

To be clear, the problem in my mind is not that mobile AA is necessarily too weak (I prefer static AA), but that Jethro is one of the strongest AA units and even it sometimes loses to a bomber start: The others often fare even worse. This variability is a problem.

Air start should not be blind RPS based on enemy factory, and you should not get a 'free win' if they pick a factory with unfieldable AA (Say, Spider or Tank).

quote: although why you need AA for a lab whose builders will tank a whole bomber fleet...

Convicts survive Ravens better due to their small shield often tanking the first bomb.

Welders are expensive.

Crasher's problem, as mentioned above, is not its survivability vs air, but its inability to stop other things from being killed, cost effectively or otherwise.

Ask yourself, how many Crashers you need to prevent a single Raven bombing, or for at least killing it?