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@ElTorero
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@ElTorero
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[quote]I already mentioned when the voting thing came up that downvoting is bad for most communities where there isn't a specific goal when making a post/video/whatever.[/quote]
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[quote]I already mentioned when the voting thing came up that downvoting is bad for most communities where there isn't a specific goal when making a post/video/whatever.[/quote]
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I
think
every
post
should
be
a
specific
goal
in
itself
(
a
minor
one,
and
self-defined,
but
a
goal
nevertheless)
.
Otherwise
it
is
just
spam.
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I
think
every
post
should
be
a
specific
goal
in
itself
(
a
minor
one,
and
self-defined,
but
a
goal
nevertheless)
,
even
if
it's
just
"make
people
laugh".
Otherwise
it
is
just
spam.
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[quote]If facebook had downvotes (dislike) it would be an abomination and it would probably hurt people's friendships.[/quote]
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[quote]If facebook had downvotes (dislike) it would be an abomination and it would probably hurt people's friendships.[/quote]
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Car brought this up yesterday, so I'll just repost what I said to him:
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Car brought this up yesterday, so I'll just repost what I said to him:
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[quote][KingRaptor] yea, but facebook is by nature of its function a carebear zone
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[quote][KingRaptor] yea, but facebook is by nature of its function a carebear zone
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[KingRaptor] (contrary to the word choice I don't actually mean that in a derogatory manner)
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[KingRaptor] (contrary to the word choice I don't actually mean that in a derogatory manner)
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[KingRaptor] reddit, stack overflow, youtube etc. all have -1 votes[/quote]
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[KingRaptor] reddit, stack overflow, youtube etc. all have -1 votes[/quote]
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@[2up]knorke
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@[2up]knorke
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[quote]The vote-system makes people create "why did you downvote me?!" postings, which means more offtopic, it makes forum less fun to read and threads more likely to derail.
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[quote]The vote-system makes people create "why did you downvote me?!" postings, which means more offtopic, it makes forum less fun to read and threads more likely to derail.
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Admins also had to deal with "revenge voting" or trolls exploring "abuse" of voting as a new playground, so it creates more work there, too.[/quote]
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Admins also had to deal with "revenge voting" or trolls exploring "abuse" of voting as a new playground, so it creates more work there, too.[/quote]
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My snarky reply to all this is "because people are stupid."
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My snarky reply to all this is "because people are stupid."
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More seriously, though, given the low incidence of such problems thus far, and the fact that you could list similar problems of having a forum at all, I think the benefits outweigh the disadvantages thus far.
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More seriously, though, given the low incidence of such problems thus far, and the fact that you could list similar problems of having a forum at all, I think the benefits outweigh the disadvantages thus far.
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[quote]And yes, of course downvotes can be taken as insults:
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[quote]And yes, of course downvotes can be taken as insults:
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If upvotes are meant as agreement/praise then downvotes are simply the opposite.
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If upvotes are meant as agreement/praise then downvotes are simply the opposite.
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imo +- votes are the most primitive form of communication.
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imo +- votes are the most primitive form of communication.
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Imagine someone would responds to postings like this:
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Imagine someone would responds to postings like this:
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This is bad. or You are wrong.
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This is bad. or You are wrong.
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No reason given, nothing. He would be told to please post more constructive critism.
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No reason given, nothing. He would be told to please post more constructive critism.
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Currently the votes are like this...[/quote]
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Currently the votes are like this...[/quote]
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Votes are fundamentally different from posts though. If I write a letter to the editor or a blog post condemning politician X for being Hitler, causing cancer etc., I'd be expected to give some very solid reasoning for it. But when the election comes and I go to vote against that politician, nobody is going to ask me why I did it.
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Votes are fundamentally different from posts though. If I write a letter to the editor or a blog post condemning politician X for being Hitler, causing cancer etc., I'd be expected to give some very solid reasoning for it. But when the election comes and I go to vote against that politician, nobody is going to ask me why I did it.
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(of course, election votes are anonymous so the analogy breaks down a bit here)
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(of course, election votes are anonymous so the analogy breaks down a bit here)
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While I would find it very amusing if voters in elections had to write 500 words on why [i]their[/i] candidate is the best thing since Jesus invented sliced bread and all the others are big doo-doo heads, I don't think it'd actually make the overall system [i]better[/i].
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While I would find it very amusing if voters in elections had to write 500 words on why [i]their[/i] candidate is the best thing since Jesus invented sliced bread and all the others are big doo-doo heads, I don't think it'd actually make the overall system [i]better[/i].
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