how to contact admin

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So where is that "contact admin button"? If a moderator (friend of a silly player), makes a friendship action, then at least I would expect that he is old enough to defend his silly decision?

Can anyone tell me how to contact an admin without being his best buddy? I guy literally told me that I will get a ban because I used 1x an exit vote, which was accepted. I was laughing because no where it is marked that this is not allowed.
=> So I want to talk to that moderator, because at least he should be man/women enough to explain himself, if he supports his buddy.

Abusing an exit vote (and a bug causing it to require less votes than it should) to avoid a game loss in a 30-minute game because you claim your opponents do not "deserve" to win is, in fact, prohibited by the Code of Conduct:

quote: 4. Maintain Fairness Do not cheat.

Explicitly spelling out every unreasonable act that somebody could possibly commit in the Code of Conduct is unrealistic - it would take too long and the capability of humans for doing unreasonable things is difficult to predict. Some common sense is required.

You weren't banned for this, just had some voting rights removed for a few days.

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For future reference, the "Contact administrators" button on your user page puts your message where any and all administrators can see it.

Vote exit really should only be used in the first minute if youre going to use it at all. Otherwise the only real reason to use it is if something major (mass desync, mass lag) occurs. The longer the game the more you need to justify it. It is frustrating to other people to have the game they worked hard in be thrown away by some bug abuse. This is very much in the same category as crashing the game whenever you lose.

A 2 day rights removal isn't unfair. At least it wasn't a 2 day ban.

2 days or for eternity makes for me no difference.
=> for me it is a question of principe


The exit vote was accepted by the majority of the players. So where is the problem?

IF a moderator thinks that this usage of exit vote is wrong.... (while it is not marked in the code of conduct)
- why not all that accepted the vote get banned?
- why did I not get a warning?

I tell you why... It was clear that the guy that reported me was a buddy of the moderator. He even told me so.
=> so here we do not talk about a fair moderator decision but about a favor between 2 buddies.

This is a miss-use of moderator power is unacceptable. The only thing that would be acceptable is a warning for something that is in no text anywhere. But because he was a buddy of the moderator he gave a ban.


I see in 20% of the games that the winning side starts RESIGN votes in order to avoid that the losing side can start a vote. And nobody of them gets banned for this.


So I only accept a warning but no ban for such a thing. Everything that is worth a ban must be mentionned somewhere in the code of conduct ... if not only a ban is possible. Anything else is not acceptable.

I AM NOT OK with the decision and request a change to a warning.
=> you can not do the rules as you go. I paid for this game and have also rights!

quote: The exit vote was accepted by the majority of the players.

Incorrect. For some reason the vote only required five of the twelve eligible people to vote. We are looking into why this occurred.

quote: - why not all that accepted the vote get banned?

Everybody else who voted yes was either warned or vote-banned, depending on whether it was plausible they thought it was a resign vote or not.

quote: It was clear that the guy that reported me was a buddy of the moderator. He even told me so.

I'm not aware of any moderator being a particular friend of any of the multiple people who reported this incident.

quote: I see in 20% of the games that the winning side starts RESIGN votes in order to avoid that the losing side can start a vote. And nobody of them gets banned for this.

This happens occasionally but far less than 20% of the time. The moderators do try to discourage it when it occurs. Nevertheless, "inconveniencing the other team for a minute or two while they wait for your vote to expire" is not a similar thing to "completely invalidating the effort spent by the other team in the past 30 minutes".

For reference, will point out the differences between resign and exit.

• resign:
• game is recorded on the website and has a winner
• both teams gets their rank updated
• end of game graph is displayed that shows you what you did
• exit:
• game is not recorded on website
• no rank gets updated
• no graph is displayed

When is exit used? When there is a technical problem with the game OR (at start) when a lot of players are missing and the balance is not good anymore.

When is resigned used? When the team believes there is no chance to win.

If you use exit instead of resign when you thought you lost, you deny the other team the acknowledgement of the win.

If I forgot any difference please add it.

@AQUARIUM

Just to make it clear. Not all here are 15 year olds.... some of them know to read Code of Conducts and do it.
=> for example me

quote:
Everybody else who voted yes was either warned or vote-banned, depending on whether it was plausible they thought it was a resign vote or not.
==> How do you know that? It was an official vot which was accepted. Now you state that the other did not want really to accept it?
==> You sound like Donald Trump...
==> It was a votation which was accepted and I get banned for this REALLY? Why do you have votations for then?


quote:
The exit vote was accepted by the majority of the players.
Incorrect. For some reason the vote only required five of the twelve eligible people to vote. We are looking into why this occurred.
==> and why you say its incorrect... if I start a POLL I have to checke for bugs? It was majority decisions, the other left no need to log why it happened, it was a correct POLL which passed so ban all that voted yes, then I am OK.
==> In the print screen you see that one guy even votes 2x yes. IN your logic he needs to be banned twice?

quote:
It was clear that the guy that reported me was a buddy of the moderator. He even told me so.
I'm not aware of any moderator being a particular friend of any of the multiple people who reported this incident.
==> Maybe you are not aware, but I am... he even told me that his friend with an moderator and he will settle it.
==> Maybe he is the moderator that banned me?

quote:
I see in 20% of the games that the winning side starts RESIGN votes in order to avoid that the losing side can start a vote. And nobody of them gets banned for this.
This happens occasionally but far less than 20% of the time. The moderators do try to discourage it when it occurs. Nevertheless, "inconveniencing the other team for a minute or two while they wait for your vote to expire" is not a similar thing to "completely invalidating the effort spent by the other team in the past 30 minutes".
==> What answer is that. .. if other do this kind of vote this is not bad, but if I pass a vote that is accepted, I get banned?
==> If you play often you see it happens and then they do it until game is over, so you can not resign on your side. WOULD THEY BE BANNED TOO?

You can not write codes of conducts and not follow it yourself

Thomas1

quote: "about a favor between 2 buddies. no one has gained from you being penalised"
=> So why that guy tell me, he will ensure that I get banned... if he wins nothing about it? He was pissed that an EXIT VOTE passed.
=> Correct moderator response would have been a warning, not to use exit and to update the code of conduct, that the miss-use of exit vote AND resign can lead to ban.

The moderator not even contacted me... and the message I received did not even correctly explain what to do better.
=> That moderator has for sure no children nor is he a manager.

@Aquarium

For a game that has barely 30 concurrend user, you take far to litte care about users. You do not listen, just defend a not defendable positions. Legally (and I am a lawyer) you would have no chance to pass with your argumentation.

What is clear that if you guys continue like this you will have far less user in the future.
=> I will check tomorrow if the ban was changed into a warning if not I uninstall the game and rate it as 1 Star our of 10.
=> Looking at the overall game rating, it seems that I am not the only one thinking similar.

What is a no go is to ban people without a warning for something that ia a normal function of the game. I would have understood if I continousely started an EXIT vote and all say no... I pass one VOTE and it gets accepted and get a ban for that? What badly organised moderation is that? An there are not even escalaion levels of moderators... All just say "its ok"

AND YES I am aware that the ban would end tomorrow anyway, but I do not support nor play a game which does not adhere its own code od conduct. Using a game function (poll) is not a cheat.

human law is nOTAlaw
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