What if I told you that puppies are OP as AA?

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Godde 5 years ago (edited 5 years ago) Would you nerf them? Because I won't tell you that they are OP then... [Spoiler] Not before I abused it a lot first. +4 / -0
raaar 5 years ago against some of the gunships, maybe. against planes? you need like 3 to stop each raven, and the fire bomber can blast large groups of them. +0 / -0
Godde 5 years ago With some luck you might only need 1 or 2 to kill a Raven. +0 / -0
Aquanim 5 years ago I'd probably say "it's just as well since toad is unbuildable until lategame". +1 / -0
fenrave 5 years ago If you want to be more creative, you can just force fire the puppies to avoid AOE damage, or to fuck with other raiders movement to get them close. +0 / -0
StStephenHawking 5 years ago yet the AI builds a toad 45 seconds into the match if it sees your gunship factory... +2 / -0
isaach 5 years ago Jumpbots have pretty good AA capabilities on the moderator and the puppy, the heavy jumpbot AA is a noob trap +1 / -0
GoogleFrog 5 years ago Jumpbot has powerful flex AA to allow Toad to cost 550. Spending 150 in Puppies to kill a Raven does not seem too OP. If you only need one or two 410 damage Puppies to kill a 1000 HP Raven then I'd say you've found an exploit (or someone who really stacks their Ravens). +1 / -0
raaar 5 years ago toad sucks for its cost. it costs 10% more than ettin, yet: - 7% more hp but still killed by 2 raven bombs (same as mobile AA that costs less than half as much) - 2/3 as fast, but can jump - has 10% more dps, but only at a slighly shorter range - has no AOE while ettin has some (this also means that radar wobble can make it miss completely) assuming the AOE was worth the same as jump, the 7% more hp and 10% dps would be enough to justify the cost increase witout ANY movement speed drawback. as it is, maybe instead of costing 10% more than ettin, it should cost 10% less... [Spoiler] ZK devs are afraid to make cost-effective 500-600 range anti air (with 50-100% higher dps/cost). They want players be molested by raven swarms unless they make relatively large investments in mobile AA +0 / -0
StStephenHawking 5 years ago toad's ok, ettin's great but I just solved his "with a little luck" tip. You walk out of the base with one or two, and with a little luck, reach your target no-fly zone with a handful. A jump, nor AoE, are superior to the puppy proliferation technique. I'm listening big homie +0 / -0
mojjj 5 years ago (edited 5 years ago) krow outruns ~~archangel~~ toad. sad. also, add mobile cloaker for deadlier puppies. +0 / -0
Aquanim 5 years ago (edited 5 years ago) edit: misread a post. Suffice it to say I disagree with raaar's opinion on anti-air as per usual. +0 / -0
Godde 5 years ago +3 / -0
FFC 5 years ago why was there 4 puppy missiles +2 / -0
Anarchid 5 years ago Waitt, does that mean a Puppy can survive an impact now. Reusable puppies for everyone! +0 / -0
Vermind 5 years ago The puppy flies long enough that the game considers it a "miss" respawning the puppy, while the Raven collides with the "missed" projectiles. Then the respawned puppies fire again and this time "hit". +2 / -0
GoogleFrog 5 years ago It looks like the Puppy missiles time out just before they hit the Raven, which, for some reason, causes the Puppy to be respawned. +0 / -0
Godde 5 years ago +1 / -0
Kingstad 5 years ago what on earth is going on +2 / -0
Fealthas 5 years ago Toad sound like it belong in amphibian lab. +0 / -0

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