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Map: Red Comet
 Red Comet
Title: TEAMS: All welcome!
Host: CZrankSpringiee
Game version: Zero-K v1.2.1.0
Engine version: 91.0
Battle ID: 229889
Started: 11 years ago
Duration: 17 minutes
Players: 8
Bots: False
Mission: False
Rating: Casual
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Team 1 Won!
Chance of victory: 31.7%
XP gained: 112
CAranksanyc
USranksammojr
USranksuperninja113
FRrankKargaroth
Team 2 Lost
Chance of victory: 68.3%
XP gained: 81
GBrank[Fx]Drone died in 16 minutes
GBrankTycell died in 17 minutes
GBrankminidow died in 17 minutes
USrankdarkstar64 died in 18 minutes
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USrankNiarbeht
DErankChesti
USrankCrazyEddie
CArankTheMooseIsLoose




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USrankCrazyEddie
11 years ago
Right after losing, Drone got onto Forb's twitch stream and derided his teammates, blaming them for the loss.

Drone, complaining about having bad teammates in a skill-balanced team game is retarded. You're high-skill, so of course your teammates will be low skill. Perhaps you're not suited for playing with other people. You should consider sticking to 1v1 games; your lack of sportsmanship and stunted social skills will be less of a problem there.
+2 / -0

GBrank[Fx]Drone
11 years ago
ooh I got annoyed because my team mates were useless shits, totally worth posting on forum about!

Sportsmanship applies to people actually participating in the sport, not afk noobs

I agree though, I also think I should stick to 1v1
+0 / -0
RUrankbanana_Ai
11 years ago
quote:
ooh I got annoyed because my team mates were useless shits, totally worth posting on forum about!

It is the dark curse of high-elo players!
+1 / -0
BErankFlipstip
11 years ago
Never go into small teams with noobs, it's too unpredictable. They might pick up the game mechanics really quickly and you'll stomp the enemy team really hard, or they have no clue about taking map control and countering enemy unit compositions. In balanced team games you only win if you're team plays better than expected, and/or when the enemy teams plays worse than expected.
And that can be really frustrating sometimes.
+3 / -0


GBrank[GBC]1v0ry_k1ng
11 years ago
(edited 11 years ago)
drone had no chance of winning here, too many inexperienced players.

I still think that the balancer needs changing so that each player can only influence the elo of a single team-mate.

eg. the highest and lowest always get put together, but there will never be a situation where the highest gets put with the 2 lowest in a 3v3.

eg. in a 3v3 with one high elo player it should do this

highest --with--> lowest
2nd highest --with-- 5th highest
3rd highest --with- 4th highest
what it does instead

highest --with--> lowest AND 5th highest

VS

2nd highest, 3rd highest, 4rd lowest


the 3 average players will almost certainly mash the pro and 2 nabs. current balancer sucks for this reason.
+2 / -1


USrankCrazyEddie
11 years ago
Ivory King: As Licho has pointed out, this is an empirical question that can be tested and answered. You can devise any balancing algorithm you'd like and run it against the historical dataset of matchups and results. The current algorithm does a good job of predicting the winner of each historical match, better than any other algorithms that have been tested so far.

But anyone can devise a different algorithm and run the test. Maybe there is a better algorithm and we just haven't found it yet. If you're interested, you might ask Licho in chat for a pointer on getting started.
+0 / -0


USrankCrazyEddie
11 years ago
quote:
totally worth posting on forum about

I certainly thought it was. If we want the community to get better, we have to point out when people are violating community norms. I think good sportsmanship and good manners should be part of our community norms, and I think assholes like you should be shunned.
+4 / -0