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1/26/2013 10:47:32 AMGBrank[GBC]1v0ry_k1ng before revert after revert
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1 Forking from the 'Things I dont like about ZK' thread - 1 Forking from the 'Things I dont like about ZK' thread -
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3 [quote]The Sumo is a horrible, horrible unit. It counters all low density land with absolute brutality. In team games, mostly anyone in the top 10 – Rafal, Fireman, Wolas etc – will rush these invariably, and they are almost always incredibly effective. 3 [quote]The Sumo is a horrible, horrible unit. It counters all low density land with absolute brutality. In team games, mostly anyone in the top 10 – Rafal, Fireman, Wolas etc – will rush these invariably, and they are almost always incredibly effective.
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5 Unlike the Golly – which is specialized and interesting – the Sumo simply counters everything on land, with a few exceptions. It has anti swarm, MASSIVE up close DPS, mobility, resilience… its completely boring and hugely effective. More than anything else, I see this unit teach noobs to stop using little, low density units and just spam heavies in teamgames and it is really awful. If this thread only has one effect, I would hope it would be to look at the Sumo and specialize the damn thing, which atm is basically the only unit outside the RPS counter structure. 5 Unlike the Golly – which is specialized and interesting – the Sumo simply counters everything on land, with a few exceptions. It has anti swarm, MASSIVE up close DPS, mobility, resilience… its completely boring and hugely effective. More than anything else, I see this unit teach noobs to stop using little, low density units and just spam heavies in teamgames and it is really awful. If this thread only has one effect, I would hope it would be to look at the Sumo and specialize the damn thing, which atm is basically the only unit outside the RPS counter structure.
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8 Sumo: too generalist. More difficult to counter than to use. Overly effective against many of its counters due to combination of HP & Jump ( dodging EMP for example, or jumping right on top of skirmishing recluses) . Encourages new players in teamgames to just rush heavies, because small units will just get squashed. 8 Sumo: too generalist. More difficult to counter than to use. Overly effective against many of its counters due to combination of DPS, HP & Jump ( dodging EMP for example, or jumping right on top of skirmishing recluses, or carbonizing rapier/banshit swarms with epic DPS) . Encourages new players in teamgames to just rush heavies, because small units will just get squashed.
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10 The Golly is now a model heavy - specialized but useful (owns heavy units, countered by swarms.) Sumo likewise needs to be specialised. 10 The Golly is now a model heavy - specialized but useful (owns heavy units, countered by swarms.) Sumo likewise needs to be specialised.
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12 Discuss. 12 Discuss.