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[quote]I haven't seen any videos of black Americans looting/rioting, but I have seen plenty of videos of white Americans trying to loot/riot and black Americans stopping them, as it is wise for them to do. Reddit has always been a hands-off moderation kind of place and wherever there is ground there will be astroturf. Racists want other racists to feel like they are the majority when they are not.[/quote]
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[quote]I haven't seen any videos of black Americans looting/rioting, but I have seen plenty of videos of white Americans trying to loot/riot and black Americans stopping them, as it is wise for them to do. Reddit has always been a hands-off moderation kind of place and wherever there is ground there will be astroturf. Racists want other racists to feel like they are the majority when they are not.[/quote]
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I think we're living in strongly different filter bubbles.
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I think we're living in strongly different filter bubbles.
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Correct my if I'm wrong, but you seem like an anti-racist person who consumes anti-racist news sources?
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Correct my if I'm wrong, but you seem like an anti-racist person who consumes anti-racist news sources?
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People
like
that
are
certainly
not
going
to
become
more
racist,
but
imagine
someone
who
is
a
bit
racist
and
consumes
slightly
racist
news
(
or
heck,
imagine
they
are
a
redditor,
who
normally
lean
pretty
leftwards
and
get
their
news
from
reddit)
.
This
person
sees
tons
of
these
videos
of
looters
and
most
of
the
cases
they
see
they're
almost
all
black.
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People
like
that
are
certainly
not
going
to
become
more
racist,
but
imagine
someone
who
is
a
bit
racist
and
consumes
slightly
racist
news
(
or
heck,
imagine
they
are
a
redditor,
who
normally
lean
pretty
leftwards
and
get
their
news
from
reddit)
.
This
person
sees
tons
of
these
videos
of
looters
and
in
most
of
the
cases
they
see
they're
almost
all
black.
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They are going to find themselves becoming a bit more racist. Particularly if they start talking to other people who are also consuming the same news sources.
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They are going to find themselves becoming a bit more racist. Particularly if they start talking to other people who are also consuming the same news sources.
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And I suspect a lot more people have slightly-racist news sources than have very anti-racist news sources.
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And I suspect a lot more people have slightly-racist news sources than have very anti-racist news sources.
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I think that may also play into this:
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I think that may also play into this:
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[quote] When you're entering data into your ethics computer, you may find it decides that preventing a genocide or a world war is a better path than exposing less people to COVID. Your own judgement depends on how far ahead (and behind) you look.
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[quote] When you're entering data into your ethics computer, you may find it decides that preventing a genocide or a world war is a better path than exposing less people to COVID. Your own judgement depends on how far ahead (and behind) you look.
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So from where I'm sitting thinking that the protests are a net negative isn't something a reasonable, good, and informed person would think.[/quote]
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So from where I'm sitting thinking that the protests are a net negative isn't something a reasonable, good, and informed person would think.[/quote]
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I suspect most Americans (and probably non-Americans too) think the risk of a genocide or world war due to lack of protesting to be extremely low. Likely because their world-views will have been influenced by different sources than you. E.g. they might have been exposed to graphs like [url=https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/nationaltrends]this one[/url] showing slowly diminishing number of black people killed by police in the USA and think the trend could continue without any need for further intervention.
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I suspect most Americans (and probably non-Americans too) think the risk of a genocide or world war due to lack of protesting to be extremely low. Likely because their world-views will have been influenced by different sources than you. E.g. they might have been exposed to graphs like [url=https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/nationaltrends]this one[/url] showing slowly diminishing number of black people killed by police in the USA and think the trend could continue without any need for further intervention.
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As an aside: The above things are why I think polarization is so bad (and worsening) in the USA. You have two groups of people consuming entirely different sources of information (which experience sampling which is biased by the normal news sharing incentives to emphasize how stupid and evil the other group is. Briefly explained here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc ).
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As an aside: The above things are why I think polarization is so bad (and worsening) in the USA. You have two groups of people consuming entirely different sources of information (which experience sampling which is biased by the normal news sharing incentives to emphasize how stupid and evil the other group is. Briefly explained here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc ).
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Protests about racism in USA