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First and foremost:
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First and foremost:
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[quote]When spectating, respect the players' right to play without disruption.[b] Do not heckle. Avoid excessive public commentary, and avoid all public commentary if the players want you to stop interrupting.[/b] When playing or in a battleroom, do not excessively call votes. Do not flood chat with messages or otherwise attempt to annoy others or disrupt games.[/quote]
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[quote]When spectating, respect the players' right to play without disruption.[b] Do not heckle. Avoid excessive public commentary, and avoid all public commentary if the players want you to stop interrupting.[/b] When playing or in a battleroom, do not excessively call votes. Do not flood chat with messages or otherwise attempt to annoy others or disrupt games.[/quote]
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With that said here comes the replay for those who didn't see what happened.
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With that said here comes the replay for those who didn't see what happened.
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You
can
find
all
this
information
in
@B713486.
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You
can
find
all
this
information
in
@B713714.
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[spoiler]
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[spoiler]
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Incident occurs between snoke and hokomoko.
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Incident occurs between snoke and hokomoko.
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/McXcNv8.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/McXcNv8.jpg[/img]
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This is just a verbal warning, clearly "admin abuse" -- @snoke didn't get punished here at all. All that was said was "enough commentary snoke".
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This is just a verbal warning, clearly "admin abuse" -- @snoke didn't get punished here at all. All that was said was "enough commentary snoke".
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/UW16xQz.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/UW16xQz.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/wEiQQIy.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/wEiQQIy.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/S6jAklM.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/S6jAklM.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/Wyh6GVz.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/Wyh6GVz.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/jz4kElN.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/jz4kElN.jpg[/img]
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The "threat"
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The "threat"
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Enter @Memequsitor from far left field getting aggressive.
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Enter @Memequsitor from far left field getting aggressive.
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/zHejIgG.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/zHejIgG.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/3bIc3Of.jpg[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/3bIc3Of.jpg[/img]
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[/spoiler]
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[/spoiler]
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For the @Memequsitor ban see below
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For the @Memequsitor ban see below
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/2e8pjie.png[/img]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/2e8pjie.png[/img]
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Opinions ahead.
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Opinions ahead.
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[quote]
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But what I do care about is controlled speech. Now I get it if say snoke had said some racist or vile thing that would be a justifiable thing to call him out for but he literally said "that is lame" thats it and then gets admin abuse because as I said before and i'll say again hokomoko is a insecure child who is abusing the admin powers to get high off the power trip. [/quote]
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But what I do care about is controlled speech. Now I get it if say snoke had said some racist or vile thing that would be a justifiable thing to call him out for but he literally said "that is lame" thats it and then gets admin abuse because as I said before and i'll say again hokomoko is a insecure child who is abusing the admin powers to get high off the power trip. [/quote]
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Sure, the ban was a bit unwarranted but your antagonization and confrontation was also unwarranted.
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Sure, the ban was a bit unwarranted but your antagonization and confrontation was also unwarranted.
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[quote]is worthy of harassment from an admin[/quote]
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[quote]is worthy of harassment from an admin[/quote]
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Hokomoko was not harassing @snoke. It was a simple warning stating that snoke's commentary was no longer being tolerated.
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Hokomoko was not harassing @snoke. It was a simple warning stating that snoke's commentary was no longer being tolerated.
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[quote]All in all I think we all have seen what appropriate shit talking is, in the heat of team matches someone almost always yells at another person on their team for not doing what they think they should do but we don't ban or harass them for that. It's apart of video gaming there is no "safe space" in the heat of battle or when someone makes a hilarious mistake its apart of the experience of gaming.[/quote]
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[quote]All in all I think we all have seen what appropriate shit talking is, in the heat of team matches someone almost always yells at another person on their team for not doing what they think they should do but we don't ban or harass them for that. It's apart of video gaming there is no "safe space" in the heat of battle or when someone makes a hilarious mistake its apart of the experience of gaming.[/quote]
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Yes, those people get muted if it continues. There's a world of difference between the occasional going off the rails and continued abuse. We're all human, we all get angry; the occasional anger is usually overlooked unless it's super bad. Most people correct course when told they're going off course. (Which is why hokomoko was issuing the verbal warning). Difference between the people who get angry in a team and a spectator is the spectator [b]isn't playing and is watching[/b]. You do not go to a baseball game and start booing when the pitcher makes a mistake when pitching. Granted it's not the worst thing to be said in all chat.
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Yes, those people get muted if it continues. There's a world of difference between the occasional going off the rails and continued abuse. We're all human, we all get angry; the occasional anger is usually overlooked unless it's super bad. Most people correct course when told they're going off course. (Which is why hokomoko was issuing the verbal warning). Difference between the people who get angry in a team and a spectator is the spectator [b]isn't playing and is watching[/b]. You do not go to a baseball game and start booing when the pitcher makes a mistake when pitching. Granted it's not the worst thing to be said in all chat.
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TL;DR:
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TL;DR:
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The way you acted was like seeing some guy get pulled over by a cop for a broken tail light and not even getting a fine, then turning around and telling the officer to fuck off and trying to assault them. No surprised you're in jail right now.
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The way you acted was like seeing some guy get pulled over by a cop for a broken tail light and not even getting a fine, then turning around and telling the officer to fuck off and trying to assault them. No surprised you're in jail right now.
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[spoiler][quote]Guess I'll see you guys around if this ban ever ends.[/quote]
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[spoiler][quote]Guess I'll see you guys around if this ban ever ends.[/quote]
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It's an hour ban, for fuck's sake. Stop being so melodramatic.[/spoiler]
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It's an hour ban, for fuck's sake. Stop being so melodramatic.[/spoiler]
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Edit: Fixed battle #
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Admin Abuse of Hokomoko