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Problem with area cloaker in sea:
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Problem with area cloaker in sea:
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no sea flea that's reasonably cheap. Ducks aren't faster than crymores which makes them unused. Since sea riots (IE: claymore) are disproportionately strong/fast compared to land riots, sea devolves into porc (the only thing that can reasonably counter the shitter) which then devolves into artillery spam/cloaked shit.
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no sea flea that's reasonably cheap. Ducks aren't faster than crymores which makes them unused. Since sea riots (IE: claymore) are disproportionately strong/fast compared to land riots, sea devolves into porc (the only thing that can reasonably counter the shitter) which then devolves into artillery spam/cloaked shit.
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Every.
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Every.
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Single.
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Single.
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TIME.
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TIME.
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Look at this shit:
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Look at this shit:
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||Name||Cost||Speed||
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||Name||Cost||Speed||
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||Duck||80||84||
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||Duck||80||84||
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||Dagger||80||144||
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||Dagger||80||144||
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||Cutter||70||156||
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||Cutter||70||156||
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||Hunter||100||126||
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||Hunter||100||126||
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||Claymore||330||99||
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||Claymore||330||99||
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Comparison:
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Comparison:
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||Name||Cost||Speed||
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||Name||Cost||Speed||
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||Reaver||220||51||
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||Reaver||220||51||
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||Outlaw||250||57||
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||Outlaw||250||57||
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||Ripper||240||66||
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||Ripper||240||66||
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||Mace||400||66||
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||Mace||400||66||
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||Venom||200||81||
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||Venom||200||81||
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||Redback||250||54||
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||Redback||250||54||
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||Pyro||220||90||
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||Pyro||220||90||
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||Ogre||520||69||
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||Ogre||520||69||
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Claymore
is
ridiculous.
It's
faster
than
ducks
and
faster
than
most
riots
(
even
Pyro
which
is
a
raider/riot!)
.
It
is
22%
faster
than
the
fastest
nonraider
riot
and
[b]56%[/b]
faster
than
the
average
land
riot
(
63.
429)
!
It
would
be
nice
if
claymore
got
a
damage
nerf
or
better
yet:
a
redesign.
Repeating
gauss
cannon,
remove
tracking,
or
reduce
AOE
would
probably
kick
it
back
into
line.
Perhaps
even
reduce
the
speed
and
cut
the
range
by
a
bit.
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Claymore
is
ridiculous.
It's
faster
than
ducks
and
faster
than
most
riots
(
even
Pyro
which
is
a
raider/riot!)
.
It
is
22%
faster
than
the
fastest
nonraider
riot
and
[b]56%[/b]
faster
than
the
average
land
riot
(
63.
429)
!
What's
even
more
absurd
is
that
it
is
50%
faster
than
the
other
riot
in
the
hover
lab.
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It would be nice if claymore got a damage nerf or better yet: a redesign. Repeating gauss cannon, remove tracking, or reduce AOE would probably kick it back into line. Perhaps even reduce the speed and cut the range by a bit. Perhaps:
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Speed: 99 -> 55-63 (~45% decrease)
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Range: 270 -> 250
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This would allow ducks to go around it and would expose it to scallop/Buoy fire more.
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Area cloaker in sea is ridiculously strong for surface stuff, but has no benefit for amphs (who actually need it in today's team game meta). Imagine playing zk land, and enemy starts doing cloaked roaches. Now imagine trying to counter that with only glaives and bandits. That's the state of zk sea.
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Area cloaker in sea is ridiculously strong for surface stuff, but has no benefit for amphs (who actually need it in today's team game meta). Imagine playing zk land, and enemy starts doing cloaked roaches. Now imagine trying to counter that with only glaives and bandits. That's the state of zk sea.
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