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10 years ago
More, more glorious spider units! Will be see this unit one day (as a drone mothership rather than as a riot with a hovering weapon)?
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10 years ago
I'm somewhat doubtful that we'll see drone host due to the potency of funnels
and the nightmares possible by spamming drone hosts and funnels.

Would like to see more spider units in the lineup though
always
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That model, with the green circuit boards, was designed to be a capture spider. Short ranged and with fairly low DPS it would have about the speed of a Venom and burrowing capacity, it would be for capturing stunned enemies.

Early on you can use it to capture enemy cons or mexes if they're undefended though, or use it in combo with an early Venom as a kind of raider force. They would have limited utility vs enemy raiders (Just the Venoms capacity to run away, mostly).

I am also working on a Drone spider. It would have just one drone. It will fill the arty gap in the factory, raining fire down from the hills, but be counterable without having to actually reach it. Funnelweb is OP just because it's OP on stats.

We'll see how the factory goes viability wise with Redback for now though.
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10 years ago
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I am also working on a Drone spider. It would have just one drone. It will fill the arty gap in the factory, raining fire down from the hills, but be counterable without having to actually reach it.


<3
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10 years ago
That all sounds really neat. I'd rather see capture on the Con purely out of nostalgia for old CA though (and the lack of any "magic" on the Spider con), but either way this new stuff for the Spider factory all looks like great fun.
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10 years ago
I don't want to add a drone spider because the current drone controls suck. I don't take any of the current drone sources seriously so I don't feel the need to fix them. If we were to have a more serious drone unit I (or someone else) would have to first rewrite the drone gadget.
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10 years ago
These units matter for FFA. Carrier is a major antinuke source in any game with even a puddle (Hunters). It's drones don't do that much there but they do matter (Say, killing cloaked units or penetrating raids).

The Funnelweb is still a serious candidate for lategame spam unit in FFA though. So yeah, it would matter if we got back into a regular FFA cycle.
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10 years ago
I did not say the opposite of what you are asserting. The control of their drones does not require precision. A drone on a dedicated relatively cheap unit has to work properly.
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10 years ago
Cant we gain controll of drones? If u could select drones and told tehm to attack somethign it would be nicer, and less buggy as it is now. And just to limit its opness, give drones a range. A ''circle'' in which they have to stay (with center on mother units). They cant be told to live this circle, but if they are forced to do so (by e.g. teleproting mother unit away) they just die.
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Do drones still land on air repair pads or has that been fixed?

Edit:It might be acceptable behaviour for Carrier drones but IMO all other drones should not land on air repair pads.
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10 years ago
Afaik non-carrier drones don't land.

Either way, landing has been completely annexed from engine control, so this is flippable.

If a drone spider ever becomes reality, i'd totally love it to be able to "recover" the drone so that it -
1) gets repaired (possibly faster than spawning a new one)
2) becomes untargetable by AA (but also otherwise inactive).

Would be also super cool if it could do that to gnats and blastwings, but that's probably too much and completely useless.
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2) becomes untargetable by AA (but also otherwise inactive).


Well, how about spawning a tiny (a bit smaller than flea) spider, which is very fast, and very annoying in swarms, instead of drone?
Something like this (Urgh, I hate spiders)

(no, it's not my homes photo)
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10 years ago
Seems like it would be pretty simple to map the current UI to drone-command.

1) Keep the drone on hold-fire.

2) Give the base-station has a fake artillery weapon.

3) Whatever the base-station's fake weapon is firing upon is fed as an "attack" order to the drone.

4) If the fake weapon is not "firing" on anything? The drone comes home to hide within the base-station.

Then you can use "hold-fire" to withdraw the drone, or attack-ground to send it out scouting, etc.
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10 years ago
are we any closer to living the dream?
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10 years ago
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2) Give the base-station has a fake artillery weapon.


But this can be abused. In huge games, where u have many units to controll, and u simply put few of them to defend others, to make whole army movement much easier, its realy easy to force enemys units to rush into ur DDMs.

On one side u have Grizzly + 10 ducks which are guarding it. On the other u have DDM + dummy arty with drones. U tell ur dummy to attack grizzly, and in this moment ducks rushes to ''defend'' grizz (and attack drone spawner), however nothing is really attacking it yet (drones need few seconds to come). If ure not watching this part of the front at this moment, u'll get all ur ducks owned.
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10 years ago
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U tell ur dummy to attack grizzly, and in this moment ducks rushes to ''defend'' grizz (and attack drone spawner), however nothing is really attacking it yet (drones need few seconds to come). If ure not watching this part of the front at this moment, u'll get all ur ducks owned.

Not if the arty never hits - or never actually fires.

All that is needed is a targeting function, no projectiles need to be spawned at all.

Did you know that commanders have fake weapons on them? And a few other units? Did you know that Stiletto has a laser cannon for targeting? That Shadow has one?
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10 years ago

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"laser"
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10 years ago
The Redback is the spiderlight. The laser is just not quite as high as in the Spiderlight, as that did not quite work- but you'll see the laser is still elevated to shoot over obstacles and other units (IE venoms).
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10 years ago
vernoms are obstacles. i already knew that.
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10 years ago
so the dream of an artillery spider is no more?
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