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FIX THE DAMN OUTLAW (another ragepost)

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How are we supposed to ambush felon/outlaw shieldballs now? I've just lost a game by trying again and again to blow it with roaches. It just doesnt work.
You might say "try skirmishers nab", but shields laugh at rocko/rogue dps
Outlaw was unpredictable before the buff/nerf, but now it's also more op
FIX IT FFS
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11 years ago
YUP
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11 years ago
Yeah thats why I also objected "auto fire" of outlaw. Imo it should not be capable of doing it and wave should be slower so that roach has a decent change to get close by.

There is already another great anti-roach unit - felon. In that respect shieldbot has the best crawler defense from all labs.
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IIRC the reason of the wave change was that it was too unpredictable, so there was no way to see if your units would get inside its range and slowed.
Isn't it possible to just make a damn circle around it showing it's max range (just like the circle that shows def range) and revert these wave changes?
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11 years ago
Originally it was meant to be constant damage aura and not a "pulsing" wave.

Reverting damage to that (even if pulsing stays visually!) would fix its issue i think.
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11 years ago
:P MAKE ROUGUE!
OR PILIGER
OR RECLUSE
OR SCALPEL
OR DOMI
OR MERL
OR SUMO
OR FIREWALKER
OR MACE
OR BRAWLER
OR PREC BOMBER
OR LICHO
OR SCUTTLE(DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF OUTLAW <5)
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11 years ago
That kinda only means that cloaky's answer to shieldballs is now sniper and nothing else.

And shieldy's answer to shieldball is a bigger shieldball.
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11 years ago
hammer
sniper
rougue
zeus
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rougue

Oh, that's totally a cloakybot unit. Damn, i must use them next time. And zeus is totally not going to be eaten alive by felon, yay!
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11 years ago
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And shieldy's answer to shieldball is a bigger shieldball.

damn amnesiac


zeus dosent counter fellon but it makes cost vs outlaw/thug blob

also racketeers(with manual aim)
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OR PILIGER
OR RECLUSE
OR SCALPEL
OR DOMI
OR MERL
OR SUMO
OR FIREWALKER
OR MACE
OR BRAWLER
OR PREC BOMBER
OR LICHO

Right, in teamgames it's quite easy to kill those shieldballs, but in 1v1 it's not possible since early fac change = death
http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/132044
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11 years ago
every single lab in zk has a hardcounter for shield spam
no exeptions!

you dont need to change lab, unless your veh and geting dirtbagged to death...
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11 years ago
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every single lab in zk has a hardcounter for shield spam

nope
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11 years ago
name one that dosent...
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11 years ago
If the shieldfac now has a non-felon counter to bombs, i suggest removing felon from the game altogether. It makes shieldbots too much about simplistic synergy and just shieldspam. Before felon's existence, you had to consider the options what to combine with your shields - now it's just pure shield+felon. Yawn.
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name one that dosent...

Shields and maybe gunshits
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11 years ago
rougue is badass vs shieldball, its aoe even kills thugs through the shield

if you set brawler to "do not strafe" it outranges all shield lab units and pwns them hard
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if you set brawler to "do not strafe" it outranges all shield lab units and pwns them hard

I find your assumption that brawler outranges vandal... hilarious.

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If the shieldfac now has a non-felon counter to bombs, i suggest removing felon from the game altogether. It makes shieldbots too much about simplistic synergy and just shieldspam. Before felon's existence, you had to consider the options what to combine with your shields - now it's just pure shield+felon. Yawn.

I second this with the force of thousand suns.
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11 years ago
felon counters heavy crap like sumo...

if you are using gunships it is fair to asume your enemy dose not have enough aa

stop being argumentative anarchid... i know you are a flaming troll but really, tone down the stupid
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felon counters heavy crap like sumo...

I'm pretty certain sumo counters shieldcrap like felon. One jump, and entire blob is in bits, pieces, and cinders.

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stop being argumentative anarchid... i know you are a flaming troll but really, tone down the stupid

stop posting obvious falsities or be ready to prove them again :P
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