Linux users left in the cold

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carpal_tunnel 12 years ago Ever since springie stopped using spring 89 in favor of spring 88, I haven't been able to play. I can't run zero-k lobby on linux and springlobby won't let me connect with spring 88. How long until I can play again? +0 / -0
Chesti 12 years ago Are you sure you are with spring engine 88? I am usin springlobby (version: 0.147) too.. I remmeber one guy who couldn't join though.. but he could join over player list (right click on nick / host) Join same battle.. which version you got from springlobby? +0 / -0
carpal_tunnel 12 years ago I am running 0.147 Thanks RogerSheriff, when I try to join a game from the battle list it won't let me, but when I find a player in the battle and right click on them I can indeed join the game. +0 / -0
Chesti 12 years ago mhh DisableVersionCheck=1 in your .springrc should help see: http://zero-k.info/Forum/Thread/2890 +0 / -0
carpal_tunnel 12 years ago Cool! now I can join games, my new problem is spring 88 has an intermittent graphics glitch that also prevents me from playing sometimes. +0 / -0
Pxtl 12 years ago Engine version 91 is imminent... Hopefully this will allow consolidation back to the current release for zk. +0 / -0
Saktoth 12 years ago Does NotaLobby support multiple engine versions yet? We'd like ZKL to be linux compatible but we simply need more linux developers. Right now we just don't have any developers who themselves run on spring a linux machine. +0 / -0
Chesti 12 years ago And second question who will develop .NET apps for Linux? +0 / -0
Anarchid 12 years ago That Icasa guy did. The scary part is not actually running .net on linux, it's running it on linux and windows at the same time, with the same code, that constant fear of breakage. +0 / -0
Saktoth 12 years ago The reason we went with .net is because Licho was the only developer we had who would work on this. Seriously though. Open source. If you want it make it yourself. That's how it's meant to work. I'm serious, we really need the developers. +0 / -0
Licho 12 years ago (edited 12 years ago) Also it worked on linux and windows in the past. We just had ZERO support from linux users and none of the devs use linux. The reason was it cost devs lots of time to test on linux and it seemed as a waste of time because back then most didnt actually use it on linux. During the past several years linux crowd failed to recruit a single programmer/maintainer while windows had several people improving the lobby.. +0 / -0
Chesti 12 years ago So but the point is you would need "mono" as framework... and why should I use zklobby if springlobby works for me? I think some people have choosen Linux because they don't have to deal with M$ things... +0 / -0
StrangeMan 12 years ago I can recommend JUCE as a framework kind of thing. It features lots of ready to use stuff that is platform independent. And it helps you to create applications for win, mac and linux and also can manage your code. Take a look at it and be sure to look at "the introjucer", too. "The Introjucer" as a small app that will automatically create all the neccessary project files from your source, so you can directly compile it using xcode, visual c++ or whatever. +0 / -0
Pxtl 12 years ago @RogerSheriff - feel free to re-implement it. Licho chose C# because, regardless of its MS ties, it's a really easy language to work in. He got ZKLobby into workable, effective functionality in a tiny fraction of the time it took SpringLobby (the C++ implementation) to become usable. StrangeMan - unless you're volunteering to re-implement the lobby in C++, nobody's going to be using JUCE here. Spring has multiplatform lobbies, they're just missing some important features ZK needs (like multi-engine support) and the developers of those lobbies haven't added them. And as for the Spring engine itself, it uses a lot of very-close-to-the-metal stuff to maintain sync that probably wouldn't play nice with any special framework like that. +0 / -0
FireEagle 12 years ago Will zklobby ever use the multithreaded engine? +0 / -0
ElTorero 12 years ago I'd like to see zkl in linux, but since i dont know C# i can't help much there I just tried to compile it using mono and it gave 5 errors and 9 warnings, should i paste them in a new post? +0 / -0
[2up]knorke 12 years ago http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=28447 This thread explains how to join games via springlobby and spring 88, even if SL does not want to. (windows but maybe works on linux too) DisableVersionCheck=1 did nothing for me. +0 / -0
carpal_tunnel 12 years ago What are the advantages to using zero-k lobby over springlobby? If springlobby is "good enough" why bother with a linux port of zero-k lobby? +0 / -0
[I]burp 12 years ago Yea springlobby is fine imo. I feel no real need for porting zkl. I prefer NOTA Lobby :) +0 / -0
ElTorero 12 years ago Slobby eats like 200 mb ram in my pc, i cant play spring with that monster Notalobby is nice, but it lacks command interaction with server (i cant join clan/faction chanel) Porting zkl to linux shouldn't be a priority, but i'd like to see it working there +0 / -0

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