Why did DaKeys get banned?

Hello, this is DaKeys' dad. I know I already posted this question on the Discord chat site, but he wanted me to post on this forum as well.

He is asking why his Mekkie account got banned only a few hours after DeinFreund allowed him to play under that account (with me monitoring his behavior). I spend a large part of yesterday talking to him and Jasper trying to get him to be able to play this game again after he has been complaining everyday about being banned ever since school got cancelled. After a long discussion, DeinFreund allowed him to play after he participated in a Codeforces contest today.

Please look into this issue, as Dakeys was very happy to find out he could play again and promised to behave well in the game, and he wasn't expecting this to happen.

quote: Hello, this is DaKeys' dad.

I believe the mocking arises from people believing that this is DaKeys impersonating his own dad and not his actual dad.

DaKeys has attempted ban evading several times since his ban, including making smurfs that come to the forum to speak on his behalf while pretending (very badly) to not be him.

Mekkie3 is DaKeys and was known to be for a few days. He was let through the ban because some moderators took it upon themselves to unban him based on stories about DaKeys' dad setting him on the straight and narrow, with various bits of partial verification and behavioural assurances. By the time the rest of the moderators were online the policy had already been set.

I think the course of action should not depend on whether the DaKeys' dad story is true or not. If it is true, then I don't have the time or inclination to have Zero-K function as an integrated facet of an individual's life-wide behavioural therapy. I don't think the other players have much patience for it either. Zero-K is not parental control software, that already exists, so we aren't in the business of unbanning someone because they have done their homework on time. The rules for a game are simple, if a player consistently misbehaves in the game then we should do as any other online game would do and boot them.

If the story isn't true then we're just dealing with someone willing to spin any type of tale to get unbanned.

quote: He is asking why his Mekkie account got banned only a few hours after DeinFreund allowed him to play under that account (with me monitoring his behavior).

While most of the other moderators read what had been decided upon overnight and decided to not immediately go against what had apparently become policy, not everyone had kept up to date. The result was the banning a clear smurf of someone who was permanently banned, since this is usually what we do with smurfs.

I am writing this post because the moderators that granted to unban failed to take an important step - tell the community. If the community thinks that someone is technically meant to be banned (and the DaKeys profile page even says so) then they are correct to report smurfs of that account. Those reports not being acted on creates confusion and is likely to catch non-smurf accounts in the crossfire. If it seems like the community would riot over such an announcement then perhaps the player is not ready to be unbanned. This is a delayed attempt to clear up confusion.

Due to the multitude of reports for a similar pattern of trolling, and the lack of communication from the moderators regarding the unban policy, I have reverted the policy back to "ban DaKeys". Unfortunately the policy is not completely the same as last time because this has revealed an issue with permanent bans - namely that there is no incentive to not try to work around them. The new policy is as follows:

• DaKeys is banned for one month.
• Any smurfing or wiki vandalism or any other nonsense resets the ban to three months.
• If he ever makes it to being unbanned then the DaKeys account is unbanned (if technically feasible) so as to not get reported as a smurf.

Edit: One month.

Woops.

Thanks for your hard work moderators, we thank you for making this a better place to come and have fun.

out with the riff raff.

( Love how dakeys himself downvoted this >.< )

Peace & Love all - What goes around comes around!

quote: he didn't get any warning to stop this behavior

He was actually warned several times, including a formal modaction which took away his ability to actually start votes for a few days before the first ban.

Why in the world am I seeing rule-lawyering in zero-k like all the time? Did this start with the steam release? Was I just not paying attention 5 years ago? And how can someone think this is appropriate behavior? I would ask who, but the who is right here!

KNOCK KNOCK..

who's there?

DAKEYS

dakeys who?

DAKEYS TO THE DOOR PLEASE!

quote: why do we even anwer at all?

this

I don't think there's any genuine legal obligation to respect the wishes of his so-called "Father." Nor respond after a sufficient explanation has already been given by the staff. Especially on a public forum, I would imagine if this was actually his father, he would have kept the matter private, not out in the open. My own father would rather call customer support or email a company, rather than go on their public forum and demand an explanation.

(Obviously its not the same for a game like zero-k, but we already know this "father" is capable of directly talking to the staff over discord, therefore making the continuation of this public thread needless. There is no need for community input as the punishment is already settled)

Personally, we have already been told that DaKeys has the capacity to lie or otherwise deceive staff by making alts to evade his bans. So why even give him the time of day?