Ban Big Bertha for team kills

we all know that among players in ZK there is one that stands alone with the most team kills in all of ZK, its name is BIG BERTHA and it is EVIL! BAN HE!!!!!

And tremors?
Most teamkils in my gameing was by peneterators (lance). Sometimes also snipers do job.
But behelubsters is special category. Fire and forget!

Can't say I have seen Berthas or Cerberus blowing themselves up while trying to shot. I'd guess all high aoe artillery is prone to some friendly fire.

If I had to name a king of team kill it would definitely be Tremor.

Teamkill? what about the ultimate teamkiller: starlight!

though if u dont pay attention zenith can make a comeback!

Technically Lance and Phantom could be made to attempt to avoid shooting through allies as much as they do now, but not actually collide with allies if they happen to hit them. It would degrade the authenticity of the projectile physics and unit AI (why avoid shooting allies when your projectile passes through) but maybe that is a price worth paying.

Removing Big Bertha:
Im against it

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Anarchid this is a competitive 1v1 strat too
B880334 2 on Hourglass v0.3

quote: Technically Lance and Phantom could be made to attempt to avoid shooting through allies as much as they do now, but not actually collide with allies if they happen to hit them. It would degrade the authenticity of the projectile physics and unit AI (why avoid shooting allies when your projectile passes through) but maybe that is a price worth paying.

I think it isn't. Reasonably life-like physics that occasionally backfire are one of the cooler aspects of Zero-K.

On the subject of berthas, I have observed they seem to have a poor understanding of what they can actually hit. Recently I have seen a Bertha trying to hit an enemy base and hitting a hill on the way instead, where there were allied units. Fun times.

I suppose its on purpose, since they can flatten terrain so sooner or later they will start hitting the intended target, but it can lead to hilarious amounts of wasted shots/friendly fire.

Could the lance beam or Phantom projectile physically push allied units out of the way instead of damaging them, as if another allied unit was there?? Not sure what kind of hack would be needed though.