Newbie, not welcome. Troller, not welcome. Play be good man otherwise kick kick kick.

Newbie, not welcome. Troller, not welcome. Play be good man otherwise kick kick kick.

but the room for sure was passworded right?
cuz i recieved warnings and stuff once i kicked ppl from private not passworded room.

he didnt even play, and i was supporting air, kept marking enemy swarms and thunderbirded them, when u then ran away from thunderbirded enemies..
you lost the game before as well (Mod edit: keep it clean kthx)
Also there were more ppl u just roundhouse kicked without warning or any notice iirc
looks like rage

I think he is refering to the hostile attitude that can be seen in teams all welcome rooms, as well as in other games, towards nebs, trolls, lobs ...etc

tbh i do recognize this as an issue, even starting some kick votes myself when i am unable to take responsability for my own negative emotions (which i then project on the low levels, or trolls resulting in blame train)



!votekick is easy , pacifying ur anger is difficult

Trolls are literally in a teams-game to make the expierience worse for all players involved. I see no reason not to kick them.

quote: Trolls are literally in a teams-game to make the expierience worse for all players involved. I see no reason not to kick them.

Then, You were involve Trolley problem on there.

So personally, I see no problem in his style of play.

If what he does is not conducive to his team, it will lose and he will be punished with ELO and taken into account in the next calculation of the algorithm.

In addition, far too quickly a hunt is initiated against people who play "against the usual style of play".

quote: wasting other people's time with playing deliberately to his team's disadvantage is not what i want to be any players gaming experience.

Yes, of course you are right.

This discussion we had schonmal a few years ago with Firepluk here in the forum, I mean to remember.

The question is rather, where does the freedom of the individual begin and where does it stop?

Who wants, can and should judge how to play and which tactic leads to victory?

Who wants to regulate this?

I would be careful with premature condemnations.

I myself had only yesterday experienced in this (http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/763050) game, as the user TLama wanted to kick me from the server, because I have built a determind.

He probably did not like my playstyle, but in the end we won.

The discussion is probably more general, as I wrote above.

Who wants to judge what is "trolling" and where it starts and where it ends?

I remembered Firepluk's Theard mentioned that they had come to the consensus that ALL is welcome in ALL Welcome.

And if one thinks he just has to morph newton ramps or commander or something like that, that's the way it is.

In the end, the moderators judge what is and is not acceptable in terms of "deliberately playing to the team's disadvantage". It is not something we particularly want to do, but in order to make the Zero-K community an enjoyable place to be it is sometimes necessary.

Our tolerance for experimentation is large - otherwise competent players do all sorts of dumb gamelosing stuff without getting banned (often). It is not infinite.

Our tolerance for players deliberately sabotaging their team because they're mad at the newbies/other ragers for playing badly in the previous game is not as large. It is definitely not infinite.

As long as kelaze plays consistently badly it shouldn't be too big a deal. His ELO is already very low, so the system expects him to contribute minimally, if at all.

Occasionally playing very poorly is much more a problem if you're the highest ranking player on the team. A 1000 ELO player playing at 500 won't affect the outcome much. A 2300 ELO player playing at 1500 could easily cost his team the game.