Heavy cost yet Fail Results

Yeah those units have to be stronger or cheaper.

ya i used jugg in anti-unit...it killed like 15 glaives and died it would be fine but its lazers has like some problems firing

Jugg and Bantha are very specialised. Make them when you need cost density as that is their strong point.

Akantor, I am glad that you enjoy the game and you wish to contribute by sharing feedback. However, you are going about this the wrong way. Considering that ZK goes all the way back to TA, you could say that this game has been in development for about 12 years. As such, balance is not going to turn on a dime because someone started a thread about some unit after losing a game.

Before continuing balance discussion on anything, please read: http://trac.caspring.org/wiki/BalanceGuidelines

And please refrain from spamming threads in the development forum for every new topic.

(Someone please impliment sticky threads so we can have 1 balance suggestion thread)

i thought this was one point of the forums

maybe should make a balance thread so the dev thread isnt spammed

krow for example has been nerfed so bad if u build the same metal value of brawlers or rapier would be better
and for bantha and jugg u could build half the metal value and those would be better

Jugglenaut's main weapon it its gravity guns, which it uses to beat units against itself to kill them. It is excellent against pretty much any medium to heavy unit. It fails terribly against porc and doesn't fare well against light units either.

It is possible Jugg is a bit pricy, but it is still quite good when used right. Absolutely don't send it in by itself. Get some mobile shields guarding it, with some outlaws, racketeers, and anti-air, and you have one hell of a deadly assault force.

I agree that Krow was probably overnerfed.

If you can afford an end game strider, you can afford more units.

What are you going to do after the thing is done? You had to have alot of eco in order to even build it, now they can be turned to building an escort.

I'll paraphrase what one of the good players said to me in a game.
"Units around 100m each are what the game is about. Those that cost more than that are meant to be used to give you an advantage so you can employ your 100m units. "

Frankly, without a certain base number of units, you don't have strategy. There will only be battlefield tactics and micromanagement if you have <10 units.

In my opinion as a not-so-good player, the game appears to be about positioning and out-thinking your opponent, not about building the biggest unit in the field.

They are absolutely NOT supposed to be game-ending units, and THAT is a fact.

This game was quite deliberately designed to not be a "rush to center and porc, and then rush superweapon and win" game.