Buff Ulti

This unit is only a counter if enemy strider\heavy assault is completely naked, else its proves to be a waste.

I suggest buff hp\dps\cost

mass repeated flea spam with circle guard + detriment or pala + eraser(optional for lols) proved to be a nightmare to counter using conventional tactics

you can't sneak in ultimatum, you can't terraform with athenas/cloaky bot cons
you can bomb - though it requires an insane amount of bombers for one-run kill and often it's what u should do if u don't want him to retreat under heavy AA such as screamer/hide under eraser

in FFA nothing works, I saw Jasper using mass flea, pala spam, angler spam as aa - resignable if u didn't get starlight/drp/meteor
and in FFA game with multiple conflicts super weapons is never a choice - as you simply die while u make them and with pala u can start using it after 12k spent metal

I'd like to mention to Jasper that Ulti doesn't actually counter Cyclops. I've shot Cyclops with Ulti before and they survive if at full health.

Ulti is one of my favourite units and despite its failings it's still pretty useful. It snipes lone comms, unleashes havoc if you can get it to rear areas and absolutely wrecks shieldballs with its death explosion.

That said, I would really like for Ulti to be able to handle Cyclops. If its damage got buffed so that it could 1-shot a Cyclops I'd be a happy camper, and it wouldn't make a huge difference to game balance.

quote: Firepluk, mass Cerberus in mahor porc can counter mass Paladin. But, you'd have to be one major lobster to build mass Cerberus. A ... uh, friend ... told me about that tactic.

nah... all it does - attracts tacnux or worse - the nux itself
statics are never a counter to mobiles, at the worst case they can just go around

but I liked the part about lobster ^^

If the problem with Ulti is that it cannot kill a properly screened Paladin, how about addressing Paladin instead.

radius wont make much dif, they can usually get in close enough to get their shot off, but once decloaked, theyre pretty much dead.

random thought what id they could jump, uncloaked, long jump regen time.

Edit, second thought, that would not help them against larger striders, which i feel it the main problem

+1 to dps

The rapid fire rate doesn't really help convey the immense amount of damage hiding behind the d-gun. In practice ultimatums hardly ever get to fire more than 1-2 shots, so why not give it a much longer reload with more alpha?

I'm also not a fan of penetration damage. It might be an interesting concept, but it's nearly impossible to realize without reading detailed documentation and even harder to actively make use of in tactical decisions.

dont touch my ulti

also use fire against fleas

for some reason I think the end result of a buffed ultimatum will be more grizzlies and cyclops, more artillery (namely berthas) and less 3k+ striders other than merlin.

All it needs is +speed. Lots of speed. Imagine if ultis were almost as fast as a glaive... imagine.

Right now their only function is to counter striders/heavy units, which isn't bad. I mean, the anti's only purpose is to counter nukes, and that's pretty important. But ultis don't even counter striders well if they are being escorted by small units. IT SHOULD BE EASIER FOR THE PLAYER WITH THE COUNTER THAN THE PLAYER BEING COUNTERED to win an outcome. If the ulti was faster it would allow the ulti user to micro them better, still allowing them to get in and suicide a strider if it wasnt being escorted smartly, allowing the ulti to accomplish its purpose.