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The nurturing of the community.

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6 years ago
So you got a new influx of players (me being one of them) during this steam release. This is great for the old players, I would assume? Isnt it a wise move to take care of these new players? Teach them the lay of the land?

So it begs the question; do you, old players just want to sit in a very small pond together and play chickens? Or you want your game to flourish and help an almost dying RTS scene?

I for one love this game, but when one of the top players acts like this when approached in a respectable manner, I am very afraid of the future of this game:



Remember to think strategically about the future of our game, and not be assholes.

Respect,

The Rocking chair Rabbit
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First off, welcome to the ZK forums!
Second off, not everyone is like GBrank[Fx]Drone (the person you screen shotted here and attempted to mask their identity.)

Third off, it's not chickens old vets play. It's big clusterfuck games (aka lobster parties).

Fourth off, I'd be willing to teach basics, if you wish. Might not be a top 50 player (mostly because I prefer to waste my "talents" on big team games and doing stupid shit), but it's something, right?

Lastly, I hope this encounter doesn't dissuade you from continuing to play the game. Competition after all tends to bring out the worst in individuals. There's a lot of cool people here on the top and bottom.
+4 / -0
6 years ago
People's country flags are displayed absolutely everywhere and you thought he was Norwegian? What even is bw? Broodwar?
+0 / -3

6 years ago
hey its me the norwegian bw player, pls dont leave me im so desperate for new player i dont know how ill live if u go
+4 / -9

6 years ago
there is a "report player" function on the website (account page of every player) and chobby lobb right-click context menu of a player too. enter text,image and send. admins check, warn and occasionallyd banhammer punishments like mute, block lobby,/ip.

unfortunately this does not give incentive sometimes. some individuals just do not change or learn or even make a sport out of this. this is, however, a phenomena not limited to this game alone.
+4 / -0
6 years ago
Jazcash you think every Norwegian stay inside his border their whole life? Never occurred to you that people can actually move and live in other countries? "What is even BW? Broodwar?" ..yes..

Drone, I know youre not that good at being around humans and talking to them, but its not too late to try! I am not leaving, but if this is how the veterans welcome new players, you will be left to play against yourself for another 50 years. You probably have no problems with this as you obviously dont like to step outside your comfort zone and interact with new people.

This game is overwhelming for new players, and the only way this game can survive is with an open and inviting community.

So for that I'd like to thank _Shaman for reaching out.



+1 / -0

6 years ago
Hey I sometimes hang around the discord voicechat nowadays if you guys want to talk, also Drone sounds terribly british so I doubt hes Norwegian.
+1 / -0

6 years ago
Nei Kingstad, jeg er faktisk norsk. Jeg er også en tidligere brødkrigspoker.
+3 / -0

6 years ago
Consider me convinced, "bread war" lol
+4 / -0
A fair number of the surviving old ZK players are rude trolls. That said, being a snowflake here isn't going to get you far - the internet is not a safe space, Zero-k is not a safe space, and nobody is obliged to talk to you or be your friend. If you PM someone, they are not obliged to be friendly back even though many people will be.

The solution here is to recognise people who are unfriendly and not to communicate or play with them where you don't have to. Complaining on the forums like this is silly.

quote:
I for one love this game, but when one of the top players acts like this when approached in a respectable manner, I am very afraid of the future of this game:

Top Players are not obliged to be ambassadors or representatives of the game. Having enough spare time to play a game constantly does not imply that you are also really nice or even care about the well-being of the game or its community.
+5 / -0
That being said, around nine out of ten (at a guess) of the veterans are pretty reasonable sorts. There's a couple to avoid but it should be fairly easy to work out who they are. I could give you my list but I doubt it's entirely representative of general opinion. By and large the community is fairly reasonable.
+3 / -0
6 years ago
Btw you can look at anyones replays by just going to the play->replays tab on this website.
+0 / -0
6 years ago
@ Kingstad Lekker my bru, Jeg ist ook eine kleine norske ja!
+1 / -0

6 years ago
I won't defend the person calling you names, but if you approached me with:
quote:
so youre too good to give me a simple reply?

.. we probably won't be exchanging pleasantries.
Not only are people are under no obligations to respond to messages, they might just be AFK or busy with RL stuff. In any case, calling them out for ignoring you is a bad choice.
+5 / -0
6 years ago
Ivoryking I think you misunderstood the point of my post. You dont need to go to your arsenal and pick out snowflake and safespace. I am talking about the health of the game, its not about me or you. You dont need to repeat that he is not obliged to respond or be nice, everybody knows this. Repeating this five times is silly.

But if you guys wanna shit were you eat, and piss in your cornflakes, go ahead. It seems people like Drone and gajop takes pride in being bad taste elitists. I know how the world spins though, and its just a lack of empathy - if they were on the other side, and new players in a game, theid love for the community to welcome them and teach them the ropes.

Nobody likes to be ignored or feel lost. Nobody likes to be rolled over by a supperior player, or roll over a guy who doesnt know how to build units. Everybody loses.

Everybody likes to improve and be a part of something. Everybody gets better and has a more rewarding time if they are challenged and plays against someone at their level. Everybody wins.

And of course this post isnt me saying 'every veteran in this game is an asshole'. I am just saying this kind of behavior; calling someone a retard for asking a friendly simple question - should be scorned by the rest.

If it isnt, and this kind of rotten elitism grows and spreads, the game will die with it. All the fresh blood you got from steam will bleed out in a matter of weeks.

Be nice, teach a beginner.

Respect,

The Rocking chair Rabbit
+1 / -1
6 years ago
first off, welcome to ZK NOrankrockingchairrabbit
nice to see that more and more of the new players start to use the forum.


As some previous players mentioned, try to avoid some people, i suggest to simply ignore some (there is a function for that in the lobby)


Here is a list of people that aren't gifted with overwhelming intelligence:

GBrank[Fx]Drone
UArankCorvus_Corax
GBrankWonkey
GBrankJohn5
GBrank2plus2is5
LTrank[pikts]wolas , well maybe he's just rude when he is talking to me. (I suspect that he loves me in secret?)

oh and very important DErankChesti when he is on his period

there are some more, but i dont remember all the names...


but here is the most important information:
When you are interested in conservations about the game, teamwork and just a little talking during games. Start using mumble, and maybe if you want, our clan also called mumble is open to everyone. There is just 1 rule, if you join us, you're obligated to talk to us ;)
Oh and have fun!!!
+4 / -4


6 years ago
quote:
As some previous players mentioned, try to avoid some people, i suggest to simply ignore some (there is a function for that in the lobby)


This also transfers in game too! Also if you just want to mute people in game, just do /ignore <name> (/unignore to undo it)


PS: Feel free to hit me up on discord (stentorian) or message me in lobby and I'll try to answer any questions you have.
+2 / -0

6 years ago
who cares about "community" ? the game is either fun or it isnt

veteran/beginner got nothing to do with it. ZK got nothing to do with it. A retard is just a retard in any situation in life

Respect,

Former Norwegian BW pro player GBrank[Fx]Drone
+1 / -6
6 years ago
Wow.
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6 years ago
"respect" X )
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