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13 years ago
I'm tired of krow rushes, but the krow itself is fine
So let's ban it from sfireman's unlocks so he stops doing it :P
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FIrankFFC
13 years ago
+9999999999
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13 years ago
ZK devs are dumb there is no other explanation.
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Its not fine.

Why 5K m strider can one shot 3.5k m land strider + anything whats near, or anything below that cost, if thats fine then why it can shot fleas too. And on top of that it is flying all terrain unit with much more hp, there is no easy effective counter unless that counter is spam AA but it is not cost effective.

Only kinda effective counters are some weird shit like jump skutle emp planes, lucky spy on hills which mostly are fail.

Against any normal strider you know that you can use ultimatum, skutle or spys, but on krow they simply dont work. And why I m explaining this 1000 time.
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FIrankFFC
13 years ago
ok mayby krow really should be on stider hub
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Oh come on, stop complain about my krow rushes
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FIrankFFC
13 years ago
u stop krow rushes
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It works only becouse i got good team assistance and cover with land(cons, mobility AA, close combat units).
Other it will be fail, team cooperation always rocks, it can be any strider., like sumo/golly, or even maybe dante
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13 years ago
A part of me worries this could just be intrinsic to opening team-rushes. On 2v2s you can get the same result with Brawlers. I worry that Neonstorm might be right... maybe assisting needs to be blocked somehow in the opening?
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Its not yours krow rushes. Krow simply so easily and so fast makes its cost no other strider that can do that. There is like 100 games when I make ONLY 1 krow, and there is other air players also and I have like 100k+ damage and airforce + CA from 1 krow only. I guess you have another few hundreds of such games too.


If krow is fine then why nobody rushes dante? Because it simply is shit compared to krow you better add 1500m and get proper unit also there exists proper game mechanics to reasonably counter dante and in fact there is no reason to make dante unless AA is so dense, then you should just skip dante and make bantha anyway, or sumos or gollies.

And if krow is really fine then why there is 10 th thread about krow being OP and they grow so fast? Because people DO CARE if they wont such threads would sink immediatly. THINK.
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Part of it might be his skill, and can balance econ.
But in my honest opinion, most heavy, like krow or brawler, feel too cheap.
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13 years ago
http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/20259
What do ya think of this xD?
Proof that all heavy is op in this game.
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Krow ruins games.
Yes the other team can expand faster etc but it is all negated on first Krow's strike. It kills the front player including factory and com and all units sent for help with ease. Then whole team is forced to abandon everything else and spam aa, after which they get overwhelmed and lose.

I was in a game today in FolsomDam with Sfireman in my team. He of course rushed Krow with 2 other people. We had almost no expansion, enemy controled whole sea and south, while dam was battled for. The Krow was finished, killed enemy middle stuff, enemy spammed AA there. Then Krow went south and killed enemy player there, etc. Then we started raiding them with raiders and it was over, there was nothing they could do.
Note that enemy attacked the Krow with 2x emp bomber, 2x copperhead and about 4-5 vamps. 4k metal worth of Krow counters and it all couldn't kill it.
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13 years ago
Nerf krow? And while you're at it, nerf a bunch of other heavy stuff too (for example: brawler)
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13 years ago
Brawler is not OP at all, I dont see why you think it is.
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Skasi
13 years ago
That game you are referring to would've been easily won by the non-Krow team, Rafal. The only reason that team lost was a high elo player quitting.
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13 years ago
Rafal, when i sent krow in middle, only gods of luck saved my ass., they practically killed it, left < 500 HP.
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13 years ago
Nerf krow? I can continue rushes of sumo, golly, or even maybe dante with help of team. With appropriate cover they rocks like krow, not so mobility, but all heavies rocks if use properly.
Key of counter all heavy rushes lies in early scouting.
If you know about krow, it's easy counter it.
On sea 1-2 shradders can kill krow., or at least not allow it to go through sea.
On land 2 copperheads can make problems for krow if use it from distance
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13 years ago
and counter sumo, golly and all other land heavys
you should use well placed ticks. Emp the bitches and kill them ;).

Also an sneaky jack, make fireman rage ;).
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13 years ago
I propose Com can get 1 free scout so it can see krow coming.
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