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Best riot? vs Best Assault?

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Best riot vs Best Assault, pick below,one from each category no Striders, please add if missing, no Striders
Riot
Scallop
Redback
Warrior
Outlaw
Crabe
Sumo
Venom
Leveller
Banisher
The shipfac's Riot

Assault
Hermit
Thug
Grizzly
Halberd
Shipfac's Assault
Ravager
Reaper
Zeus
Jack



Remember, add names if missing.
Vote 1 from each category!
(I like pollvotes)
I choose
Redback&Reaper
(Feel free to change)
opionated
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7 years ago
Sumo & Jack & more Jack
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7 years ago
What is shipfac's assault? Last time I played they didn't have one. Siren is more of a skirmisher/riot(+ artillery) but not an assault.
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Skasi
7 years ago
Best Riot:


Best Assault:
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Best assault


Best riot


NZrankhedgehogs your questions are not getting answers because they are pointless, there is no best/favourite riot. You need to be more specific, for example: What are good units for reacting to glaives raiding on an open map.
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7 years ago
Reaper is the best assault. Three Reapers is the best riot.
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7 years ago
quote:
What is shipfac's assault? Last time I played they didn't have one. Siren is more of a skirmisher/riot(+ artillery) but not an assault.

Pre-1.4.12.11 the answer was probably "Siren" and "Siren". There have been some subsequent changes to ships which are in stable but patch notes haven't been written yet - see here in the interim.
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7 years ago


And

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7 years ago
quote:
Reaper is the best assault. Three Reapers is the best riot.

Sounds like to me, that Reaper needs to be fixed...
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7 years ago
Best assault:
Flea

Best riot:
Dart
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7 years ago
Zeus is best riot. Sumo is best assault.
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quote:

Reaper is the best assault. Three Reapers is the best riot.

Sounds like to me, that Reaper needs to be fixed...


Nerf to prevent monoculture!

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I don't think Reaper is built oppressively often at the moment. In terms of heavy assaults I'd say it has approximately equal market share with Grizzly. Grizzly is generally worse at being a riot for its cost, and (I would expect?) loses a head-to-head battle but has the large advantage of engaging from further away.
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7 years ago
Best where? There's no single answer. It depends heavily on which maps are in the rotation and which maps people like to currently play in custom games.

As for assaults:
On a large flat map in the relative early-midgame? Ravager.
On a flat map in most cases? Reaper.
On a flat map against other heavies or striders? Goliath.
In a situation where you need to first bypass heavy defenses to quickly raid vulnerable eco behind it? Halberd.
On a map with some water to escape or against units that are vulnerable to being skirmished? Grizzly.
Against stationary enemies (porc, blackholed or sumoheld opponents)? Jack.
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7 years ago
Hermit spam
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7 years ago
I find that if you apply enough ravager to most situations, it becomes the best assault.
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