I come back after almost year pause, and what i see.

I stopped playing this game almost year ago. So here is what i see after playing 1 game after come back.

1. Banisher, unit from Tank Lab, now useless. If you want some power against light units you better take 2 panthers for same price - do same as banisher, but has speed and quantity. Before Banisher had range and damage, it was powerful but slow unit - true representative of tank lab. Now its just weak and slow unit.

2. Vamp. You nerfed its speed and damage? It cant kill cheap little dinky Swift, without it able to escape even not using d-boost. Add slow damage to Vamp's weapons, or buff its speed and damage.

3. Firewalker. Its OP. Its not like anyone never used it before, when it was just 2 fireballs. No, it was pretty popular unit back in days. Dont know why you needed to buff it into mini-catapult.

4. Placeholder. Just OP new unit. Increase its reload time so 1 placeholder does not lock commanders.

5. Laser weapons(HLT, Grizzly, Anni, etc.) Still makes this game like its from 80s. I mean, this laser mechanic when continuous laser fire everything in one point. Same laser mechanic was in old game Mechwarrioir4, then in modern successors laser became more like laser - be able to aim while firing. So in Zero-K make laser weapons instant single powerful pulse, or make it able to aim while firing.

quote: 1. Banisher, unit from Tank Lab, now useless

and thats when I stopped reading

But today blastwings is nerfed, so i was right.

Also i now remember why i stopped playing this game.

>it's also much cheaper

its still 2 panthers cost. 2 panthers is more usefull in almost any case, then 1(one) low range low damage slow banisher.

quote: its still 2 panthers cost. 2 panthers is more usefull in almost any case, then 1(one) low range low damage slow banisher.

That's a good one, keep them coming. Monday is a sad day without some laughter.

At the risk of taking this more seriously than it deserves...

Banisher works best with a few other units to defend it; the Banisher's DPS for cost is significantly better than any other tank unit even ignoring its area of effect. If you use a Banisher alone its comparatively lower HP will be abused.

Hawk/Vamp is much stronger against gunships than against Swift. It's not actually intended to beat Swift unless you have a large blob.

Firewalker is pretty good but it is flimsy. Find a way to pick it off, don't just stick around in its range and hope everything will be fine.

Placeholder is indeed very, very strong. If its unit AI were improved to not stack holes it would probably need a nerf.

There are good balance reasons why HLT-type laser works the way it does, would be too good against light units otherwise.

Banisher does same damage and attacks like twice as fast and at half the cost. Panthers got nerfed and no longer dominate vs scorchers. Placeholder is indeed op if you know how to use it well. :P You should see sumos now, it's a laugh. Ravens are nearly as bad. I don't know if I'd call the recent blastwing change a nerf or not. Fireball blastwing might be stronger than phoenix, and still has lots of abusability potential. You missed the phase where Flipstip was killing everyone 1v1 with pure blastwing rushes, even when his opponents knew it was coming and tried to counter it. Com dead, eco dead, defenders dead, everything dead.

Firewalker is kinda OP as in it packs incredible punch with its fire shotgun. On the other hand it does not do much vs heavy units and is easily killed by air.

quote: 4. Placeholder was op two years ago. Anyway, yes Placeholder outperforming EMP is a bit of an issue.

Wow I suddenly feel so old ;_;

Two years old? Wasn't it introduced yesterday?

>Banisher is not really that much needed as a riot.

exactly