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javier15
9 years ago
Why in the game has no stages of technological advances? It would be possible?
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Anarchid
9 years ago
It is a design choice. Other games can have tech trees and tech tiers.
ZK has no need for that.
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Sprung
9 years ago
There are. There is a soft tech-like progression from light units to heavies. Air and Striders are a form of tech switch. Upgrades also exist as a form of progression (eg Thug is a recharge rate upgrade for Felon).
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javier15
9 years ago
Ya but as we can. if you want. You can build a detritment at the beginning of the game.
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Orfelius
9 years ago
(edited 9 years ago)
Will you do it though? It will take you a long time. In a meanwhile you will be swarmed with glavies or somesuch and if your opponent is making a detri then it is your own fault for not not using better strategies. One can rush krogoth in OTA too. Do people do it? ofcourse not.
Edit: Sniped by 5 seconds :D
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Sprung
9 years ago
(edited 9 years ago)
You can. But do you?
Edit: sniped.
Edit2: you cannot make a Krogoth in OTA right away. OTA does have tech levels.
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javier15
9 years ago
Ota?
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GoogleFrog
9 years ago
Tech levels are not needed so they are not here. The progression of income and unit count on the map makes a form of soft tech control.
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Orfelius
9 years ago
(edited 9 years ago)
You cannot make a Krogoth right away that is true. But you can make t1 lab->t2 lab->gantry->krogoth
So all of this = striderhub + detri
There is just no real diffrence in rush besides additional factory steps.
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AutoWar
9 years ago
OTA =
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nnihilation
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Sprung
9 years ago
quote:
you can make t1 lab->t2 lab->gantry->krogoth
In Starcraft you can make an Ultralisk through Spawning Pool -> Lair -> Infestation Pit -> Hive -> Ultralisk Cavern -> Ultralisk. Therefore, Starcraft doesn't have tech levels.
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There is just no real diffrence besides additional factory steps.
Additional factory steps
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tech.
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TheEloIsALie
9 years ago
(edited 9 years ago)
Orfelius
said nothing about tech levels. His entire point was centered around "rush". And, believe it or not, you can rush ultralisks in SC. He never denied that progressing through tech was necessary for that.
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javier15
9 years ago
I commented on how technology levels because in most strategy games has technological levels (eg... Aoe Ron Sparta Etc ..) I have not played starcraft. This very expensive.
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Orfelius
9 years ago
"Everybody has it so we do need them too" is a bad mentality :P
humanity would have never develop if everybody would think this way
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javier15
9 years ago
I do not mean that. What I say is that it is strange that in a strategy game no "evolution" as is supposed to haver a technological development and temporal development
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Orfelius
9 years ago
There is progression but it is not evaluated in "technology" but instead by metal income. Perhaps if anybody would every want to copy the ZK design some tech building could be implemented giving some units some visible buffs or special abilities (akin to zergling wings upgrade).
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javier15
9 years ago
I wish I could make changes to the game. But unfortunately I have no programming skills
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Anarchid
9 years ago
Adding tech tiers wouldn't be accepted anyway.
The game that eventually became ZK once had both tech levels and races (as well as damage types, and uneven metal/energy costs).
All this was removed
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javier15
9 years ago
Ok
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Sprung
9 years ago
quote:
zergling wings upgrade
ZK already has the Red Bull Upgrade for light units:
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