Three hours

what took you so long?

I would say that against a certain playstyle on certain maps, economy becomes pretty much invulnerable once scouting can be denied. And then games can last indefinitely because killing units no longer means anything.

And because #sonarlives, even swift scouting can be denied against buildings. Water plus enough AA to stop Owls is pretty much like when eraser cloaked buildings.


There were like seven superweapons in this game, and none did any lasting economical damage. In some cases i was shelled with DRP for like five or even ten minutes or some other eternity, and i didn't feel like my economy was damaged that much.

Also Detriments losing to terraform makes them so useless. Though in this case, Captaintoottoot could self-destruct them to deal quite a lot of damage even after they were buried. Or recall them using Djinn.

Quakes were a good idea, but out of four or five he fired, half impacted enemy shields and did nothing; the other impacted water surface and did nothing. Maybe Quake should be a `waterweapon`.

In general it feels like anti-terraform options are quite weak in ZK.

Also in this game: mucho derping. Like izirayd making more cost in Hawk than he had in Singus, same cost in shields, and even more in DDM's - he had a consistent 50% to 100% total value superiority over closest competitor once Atostic blew up, but most of it was in things that couldn't harm anyone or even stop Halberds (haha lol as if such things exist, retard brick doesn't care even for cyclops tbh).

And the things that could harm people got tacc'd or detri'd or starlighted or whatever.

Or superweapons generally shooting middle of nowhere because noone scouts. Or then there's me losing (and making!) a Scylla with 50 missiles stockpiled (that's detri cost of warheads!!!).

izirayd made like 100 submarines on the total to catch that one Scylla and it kind of was worth it in that sense. But also the Scylla killed quite a lot of stuff, including a Starlight, so cost made.

We already had an experience with Anarchid in a long game, then we chose !exit :D

I've always felt that terraform breaks ZK, just players don't understand it.

As soon as someone makes a gadget that makes exploitng terra easy/automatic it will be nerfed hard.

Eg, automatic predictive/leading terra sinking of tanks on all cons

toggleable automatic shallow trench laying that block veh/tank/hover

super thin walls around mex to stop raiders

terra-water-building interactions

quote: VC means "terraform lower/raise", "+" means add one increment of height (idk, may be bound differently), Ctrl means "make a thin line", and well, drag.

My idea of 'toggle-able automation' does not involve me rapidly finding a combination of hotkeys, it involves me clicking a button to enable the behaviour on the unit

Anarchid kill my anti-nuke
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I would like to be able to specify a certain number of units of terraform, but I have no hotkeys to do that, personally. I just checked.

If you happen to read this message even though it's posted as a game comment, please do let me know how to bind keys to terraform steps up or down